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PoleKing

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2013, 08:42:51 pm »
buy new, i'd go for a trafic 2900 with air con, 1250kg payload is enough

This is exactly what I've got!
Sport.
Box fresh.
They can be had for £14k if you argue the toss.
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PoleKing

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2013, 08:43:47 pm »
Buying new is like double the money I have lol, I will
Enquire at Ford.

New vivaro is out next year along with T6 so wouldn't go new route on either of them.

How do you know about the T6?
Do you know any spec details?
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Clever Forum Name

  • Posts: 5942
Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2013, 08:51:28 pm »
Buying new is like double the money I have lol, I will
Enquire at Ford.

New vivaro is out next year along with T6 so wouldn't go new route on either of them.

How do you know about the T6?
Do you know any spec details?

Well its all just rumours. Most German mags are saying 2014/2015.

The most up to date report was this one

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/new-t6-volkswagen-transporter-coming-in-2015-57469.html

PoleKing

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2013, 08:54:52 pm »
Buying new is like double the money I have lol, I will
Enquire at Ford.

New vivaro is out next year along with T6 so wouldn't go new route on either of them.

How do you know about the T6?
Do you know any spec details?

Well its all just rumours. Most German mags are saying 2014/2015.

The most up to date report was this one

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/new-t6-volkswagen-transporter-coming-in-2015-57469.html

Oh!!!! It's like van porn.
224PS and 4Motion!
Bye bye GTI's and boy racers in their gay Type R's.
And it looks like it sitting on 22's.
Cancel everything-I need to get saving.
I liked the T5 but (if) the T6 looks anything like that I'll be a very happy boy.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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Clever Forum Name

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2013, 08:54:56 pm »
buy new, i'd go for a trafic 2900 with air con, 1250kg payload is enough

This is exactly what I've got!
Sport.
Box fresh.
They can be had for £14k if you argue the toss.

When i go to renault site, they start from like 22K where am i going wrong  ???

PoleKing

  • Posts: 8974
Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2013, 09:05:26 pm »
buy new, i'd go for a trafic 2900 with air con, 1250kg payload is enough

This is exactly what I've got!
Sport.
Box fresh.
They can be had for £14k if you argue the toss.

When i go to renault site, they start from like 22K where am i going wrong  ???

That's list price.

Ring a dealer.
Autotrader-click new vans.

The absolute best way to get your best price is take the time to find every Renault dealer in the country. There aren't actually that many. There may be 20 'Smiths Renault' spread across an area.
I mean different named dealers.
You tell them exactly what you want. A list of non-negotiables and a list of 'likes'
Tell the dealer you want a price by x o clock on x date.
You want their best price.
ALL OF THEM will say, "we can match any price". If they can match a price then they should offer that initially.
Be clear and firm, you will take their one price, no haggling, no negotiating a 'service deal' and all the other BS they try.
You will get a list of about 20 dealers I'd think.
All offering (to all intents and purposes) exactly the same van.
Go with your best price.

If you want to make it more fun.
Try Nissan & Vauxhall.
Vauxhall are the cheapest.
Renault midrange.
Nissan most expensive.

They're all made by Nissan with only minor ancillary parts by the others.
That changes next year though I believe.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2013, 09:12:06 pm »
Thanks for the advice, will give that a go. We have a local renault near me i think two. SO will pop in,show them your reply and say " GIMME GIMME GIMME " LOL

Seriously i will pop in, thanks :)

PoleKing

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2013, 09:15:35 pm »
Thanks for the advice, will give that a go. We have a local renault near me i think two. SO will pop in,show them your reply and say " GIMME GIMME GIMME " LOL

Seriously i will pop in, thanks :)

Play it cool.

If it's your local one, play the angle of you'll be bringing it back for servicing where they'll make even more out if you!
Only mention that to haggle the last drop out of blood out of them once they have matched the lowest price you've had from across the uk.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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Clever Forum Name

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2013, 09:17:26 pm »
 ;D LOL

I would prefer a vauxall tho.

Only coz i drive one now,and had them in the past. All been awesome vehicles!

So may try it in vaux land :D

PoleKing

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2013, 09:24:39 pm »
They are slightly cheaper too.
Like someone said, now is the time. No-one is buying vans ATM...
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

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Clever Forum Name

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2013, 09:26:14 pm »
They are slightly cheaper too.
Like someone said, now is the time. No-one is buying vans ATM...

Do you mean in general or basically because its Christmas lol

PoleKing

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2013, 09:28:20 pm »
They are slightly cheaper too.
Like someone said, now is the time. No-one is buying vans ATM...

Do you mean in general or basically because its Christmas lol

Just cause its Christmas.
Cars-perhaps, a car could make a nice present.
Vans ain't shifting though.
I organized buying mine December 2011, collected January 2012.
Got mine for about £15k.
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Simon Mess

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2013, 09:40:30 pm »
If you are happy to spend £14k, there is currently on autotrader, a fiat scudo 12Q (1200kg payload) with the 163bhp engine. 59 miles, £13900+vat. That will be a pretty swift van!, and i'm sure you could knock that price down a bit.

Laugher

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2013, 09:59:19 pm »
I have heard the current transit suffer from injector problems

Spruce

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2013, 07:59:42 am »
buy new, i'd go for a trafic 2900 with air con, 1250kg payload is enough

This is exactly what I've got!
Sport.
Box fresh.
They can be had for £14k if you argue the toss.

When i go to renault site, they start from like 22K where am i going wrong  ???

That's list price.

Ring a dealer.
Autotrader-click new vans.

The absolute best way to get your best price is take the time to find every Renault dealer in the country. There aren't actually that many. There may be 20 'Smiths Renault' spread across an area.
I mean different named dealers.
You tell them exactly what you want. A list of non-negotiables and a list of 'likes'
Tell the dealer you want a price by x o clock on x date.
You want their best price.
ALL OF THEM will say, "we can match any price". If they can match a price then they should offer that initially.
Be clear and firm, you will take their one price, no haggling, no negotiating a 'service deal' and all the other BS they try.
You will get a list of about 20 dealers I'd think.
All offering (to all intents and purposes) exactly the same van.
Go with your best price.

If you want to make it more fun.
Try Nissan & Vauxhall.
Vauxhall are the cheapest.
Renault midrange.
Nissan most expensive.

They're all made by Nissan with only minor ancillary parts by the others.
That changes next year though I believe.

Small alteration  :)

Renault make the vans and they are rebadged as Vauxhall and Nissan. But Nissan has a major share holding in Renault.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

PoleKing

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2013, 01:14:15 pm »
buy new, i'd go for a trafic 2900 with air con, 1250kg payload is enough

This is exactly what I've got!
Sport.
Box fresh.
They can be had for £14k if you argue the toss.

When i go to renault site, they start from like 22K where am i going wrong  ???

That's list price.

Ring a dealer.
Autotrader-click new vans.

The absolute best way to get your best price is take the time to find every Renault dealer in the country. There aren't actually that many. There may be 20 'Smiths Renault' spread across an area.
I mean different named dealers.
You tell them exactly what you want. A list of non-negotiables and a list of 'likes'
Tell the dealer you want a price by x o clock on x date.
You want their best price.
ALL OF THEM will say, "we can match any price". If they can match a price then they should offer that initially.
Be clear and firm, you will take their one price, no haggling, no negotiating a 'service deal' and all the other BS they try.
You will get a list of about 20 dealers I'd think.
All offering (to all intents and purposes) exactly the same van.
Go with your best price.

If you want to make it more fun.
Try Nissan & Vauxhall.
Vauxhall are the cheapest.
Renault midrange.
Nissan most expensive.

They're all made by Nissan with only minor ancillary parts by the others.
That changes next year though I believe.

Small alteration  :)

Renault make the vans and they are rebadged as Vauxhall and Nissan. But Nissan has a major share holding in Renault.

Not on the info I found.
And the fact that there are Nissan badges on everything under the bonnet & battery.
Not a 'fact' as such, just what I found out while researching for mine.
The 2014 models are going to be made by Vauxhall and rebadged from what I found but mine is the mk3 I think...
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

kempy

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2013, 01:36:49 pm »
Wow . The T6 looks fantastic

Very small gross vehicle weight , legally probably only take about 400 litres

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2013, 01:42:57 pm »
Vivaro shape aint gonna happen.

Payloads are just not enough for what i need :(


kempy

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2013, 01:44:56 pm »
I have transit T300 medium roof medium wheel base

So 3000kg gross vehicle weight , so my 650 pure freedom system is one legal .

My other transit swb 260 was over the limit and I got off , so bought the above van

Clever Forum Name

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Re: Advice on vans.......
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2013, 01:47:16 pm »
Well the system is 850L so a 300 transit would be a no no.

Looking at the 330 or 350 tranists now.

Might just say **** it and go buy a new un :D