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Carl2009

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It's worth chasing customers who owe you money
« on: October 27, 2013, 04:34:41 pm »
In July 2012 I was asked to clean the gutters, fascias and windows of a mid-terraced house and, for the same woman, a the windows of a large detached house. We agreed the price would be £70. She said she'd send a cheque on but it never arrived. When I called her she said "Oh yeah, i've been in Tenerife but I posted the cheque yesterday" - it never arrived. Despite many phone calls and her assurance that "i'll put a cheque in the post" I ended up, after Final Demands, going to Thomas Higgins.

It was a bit of a dilemma in doing so because I knew her father had died recently and she was a single parent. In addition she was supporting her younger teenage sisters (with the help of her elder brothers). I figured that if she responded to the Thos Higgins Letter Before Action i'd cut a deal to take the money in instalments.

Unfortunately she didn't and it went to court. She didn't contest it and I won the case. By now it was Christmas and the amount she owed was £236... I got a request from her through the court to pay £20 / mth, which I was happy to accept. I was hacked off because on the court docs she said she didn't have a cheque book, so all those stories she told me were lies as I knew they were.

I didn't get a penny despite the court dictating the date the first payment should be paid. She then asked to pay £30 mth; again I agreed and again I got nothing....

Roll on to spring and she again asks to pay £20 / mth and again I agree (on advice from Thos Higgins). Amazingly she makes payments through to August on the 1st of the month regular as clockwork - happy days. Unfortunately that all stopped in September. Again I go back to Thomas Higgins, but this time i'm going for the lot - the remaining £116.

Happily I got en email last week saying Thos Higgns had received a cheque (presumably from a relative on her behalf) payable to them in final settlement and once it cleared they'd send one on to me. I got it on Wednesday.

Was I right to follow through? Despite being on a low wage this woman engaged me for work she never intended to pay for. She was happy to go to Tenerife on holiday rather than pay her bills. She lied to me about having posted payments. She would not return my polite calls or answer the door to me. I made every effort to make payment easy for her yet she ignored the opportunities I gave. Had she, at the beginning, said to me "I've made a foolish mistake and asked you to do work I can't pay for" I have dropped the matter there and then. Instead she's got a CCJ and she's paid hundreds of pounds rather than the £70 she owed, whilst I've been paid in full. It's worth the hassle of chasing them.

Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2013, 04:43:42 pm »
I'm sure you feel very vindicated  ::)roll

Ian101

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2013, 04:54:20 pm »
Yes

tlwcs

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2013, 04:59:11 pm »
I'm with you Carl.
You gave her plenty of opportunities to pay and agreed to her terms of repayment that she defaulted on.
I doubt your the only one she's messing around but would also put money on her still having holidays, take aways, fAgs and booze.
Tony

8weekly

Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2013, 05:10:18 pm »
I do have a little sympathy. If it was just the windows, but gutters as well strikes me as a deliberate fraud(?). Well. dishonest anyway rather than an innocent hard luck story. She has only herself to blame.

Dick

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2013, 05:21:22 pm »
Other places, supermarkets etc wouldn't take any notice of her circumstances, single parent etc, if she couldn't afford it she shouldn't have engaged your services as it appears she had no intention of paying.
You did the right thing and it cost her
Well done for persevering.

TheWindowManChris

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2013, 05:40:03 pm »
Other places, supermarkets etc wouldn't take any notice of her circumstances, single parent etc, if she couldn't afford it she shouldn't have engaged your services as it appears she had no intention of paying.
You did the right thing and it cost her
Well done for persevering.

+ 1

You did the correct thing,   You are not a free service and you should be paid for a fair wage!

South Window Cleaning Ltd

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2013, 05:44:25 pm »
We would do the same thing, if they dont pay take them to court,

PoleKing

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2013, 05:44:52 pm »
I'm sure you feel very vindicated  ::)roll


The rolly eyes IMO is entirely unfair.
The fella worked so deserved to be paid.
It's not even windows continuing on into a period where the customer was a bit strapped.
It was gutters. A one off. Premeditated.
Thought she'd get away with it (I presume)
She brought it all upon herself. Despite her 'circumstances'
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2013, 05:56:00 pm »
 ow yeh don't let the old sob story fool you next time its yours and you want paying :)

Carl2009

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2013, 06:15:38 pm »
I'm sure you feel very vindicated  ::)roll


So, Hummer, if someone walks off with £70 worth of your gear from the back of your van would you be rolling your eyes then? I suppose that's different somehow. It hacks me off when someone thinks it's OK not to pay for things - services or goods. I'd like to see you roll your eyes at the magistrate in court if you help yourself to £70 of goods from your local Spar.

Get real man.

Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2013, 06:26:13 pm »
I'm sure you feel very vindicated  ::)roll


So, Hummer, if someone walks off with £70 worth of your gear from the back of your van would you be rolling your eyes then? I suppose that's different somehow. It hacks me off when someone thinks it's OK not to pay for things - services or goods. I'd like to see you roll your eyes at the magistrate in court if you help yourself to £70 of goods from your local Spar.

Get real man.

Are you a hippy?  ::)roll

Carl2009

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2013, 06:34:01 pm »
I'm from Lancashire. For us Lancs, the use of the word "man" in the context I used it in could best be translated as, let me see, yes I know, "you pillock".  ::)roll

robertphil

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Re: It's worth chasing customers who owe you money
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2013, 06:35:56 pm »
i like reading these success stories . did you go in person to the court Carl , how long were you in there 

TheWindowManChris

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2013, 06:37:33 pm »
I'm sure you feel very vindicated  ::)roll


So, Hummer, if someone walks off with £70 worth of your gear from the back of your van would you be rolling your eyes then? I suppose that's different somehow. It hacks me off when someone thinks it's OK not to pay for things - services or goods. I'd like to see you roll your eyes at the magistrate in court if you help yourself to £70 of goods from your local Spar.

Get real man.

A Spar!!  £70 worth of goods out of Spar would be like 3 cans of Cola! They are bloody expensive shops!

Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2013, 06:45:46 pm »
I'm from Lancashire. For us Lancs, the use of the word "man" in the context I used it in could best be translated as, let me see, yes I know, "you pillock".  ::)roll

Haha, by using that term I believe you have just described yourself as "man".

Anyway, well done for dropping someone in the mire for your poxy £70. Guess, you must be desperate.


Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2013, 06:55:40 pm »
I'm sure you feel very vindicated  ::)roll


So, Hummer, if someone walks off with £70 worth of your gear from the back of your van would you be rolling your eyes then? I suppose that's different somehow. It hacks me off when someone thinks it's OK not to pay for things - services or goods. I'd like to see you roll your eyes at the magistrate in court if you help yourself to £70 of goods from your local Spar.

Get real man.

A Spar!!  £70 worth of goods out of Spar would be like 3 cans of Cola! They are bloody expensive shops!

Are you serious? You could probably buy the whole shop!  ;D

PoleKing

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Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2013, 07:07:04 pm »
I'm from Lancashire. For us Lancs, the use of the word "man" in the context I used it in could best be translated as, let me see, yes I know, "you pillock".  ::)roll

Haha, by using that term I believe you have just described yourself as "man".

Anyway, well done for dropping someone in the mire for your poxy £70. Guess, you must be desperate.



Are you joking?
He didn't 'drop anyone in the mire'
She did it to herself.
She should be made an example of.
It's not the money. It's the principle.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

Re: It's worth chasing customers ho owe you money
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2013, 07:09:57 pm »
I'm from Lancashire. For us Lancs, the use of the word "man" in the context I used it in could best be translated as, let me see, yes I know, "you pillock".  ::)roll

Haha, by using that term I believe you have just described yourself as "man".

Anyway, well done for dropping someone in the mire for your poxy £70. Guess, you must be desperate.



Are you joking?
He didn't 'drop anyone in the mire'
She did it to herself.
She should be made an example of.
It's not the money. It's the principle.

Made an example of??

Haha, you sound like a Muslim cleric! Get real "man".

Rhino dave

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Re: It's worth chasing customers who owe you money
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2013, 07:23:33 pm »
Well then hummer, what would you have done ???