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robert mitchell

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2013, 06:22:18 pm »
If Alex would make a sill brush weighing 160ish grams with white bristles and the new blue ones you would have an unbeatable brush.


Those blue bristles are awesome!

i would buy one of these , any plans alex?
www.ishinewindowcleaning.co.uk

The man who never made a mistake never made anything.

Darren Spreadbury

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2013, 06:29:47 pm »
A great company done well .
But a light brush isn't the be and end all .
Having a Slightly heavier brush does assist in cleaning and we're not as exactly talking a brick weight difference .
I need a brush that scrubs well , and lasts a longer time than the gardiners one .
Saves me money and a better clean .
My opioion that's all .
The gardiner ones are that light they obviously lose the other important factors such as ability to scrub and last long .
Go any lighter and why , be like having a feather on the end of the pole .

A fair few have changed to other brushes , but gardiners will still get my business from time to time but not as much
Variety is the good and now there's competition in the Wfp market .

New poles from aqua adaptor look impressive - a good clamping system


Hi Kempy

Just to clarify, looking back at your brush buying history from us so far this year, you seem to be basing your comments on all of our brush range (15 brushes) on just the purchase of the Sill Soft brushes. This brush is our least robust brush and is not indicative of the life span and scrubbing ability of the rest of our brush range as many of our clients will attest to.

We originally had this brush made for those that wanted a very soft brush and still wanted to clean sills. We are now phasing this brush out as in my opinion is just too soft a brush especially in the radius sill design and cannot offer the longevity that our brushes typically offer.
your not phasing the normal soft brush out are you? Please say no.

johnny bravo

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2013, 07:33:26 pm »
these quick-loq 90 brush sockets, £2.95,      do you just screw them onto brush,     then add brush on and off when needed,  replacing your screw one which is already on brush base.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2013, 07:39:10 pm »
If Alex would make a sill brush weighing 160ish grams with white bristles and the new blue ones you would have an unbeatable brush.


Those blue bristles are awesome!

Can you drop me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk regarding this  :)

Alex Gardiner

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2013, 07:41:52 pm »
Can't be any worse than the current bunch of brushes . The ones ATM only last a few months until there very well worn. . They look very cheaply made . I still buy one brush for my 5 poles and that's a CILL brush so that I have that to do certain domestic cills .
I use the Teckbuk now as there a lot more durable , awesome scrubbing power and last longer . Heavier but at least u can feel it cleaning .

Gardiners certainly need to improve their brushes and maybe these are better !

I lost a lot of interest in gardiners stuff with the constant upgrading of clamps , 3rd generation now , and now all this Quik loq stuff . Never ending with them .
But that's my opioion and others will think the exact opposite to me

Ive just bought another Tekbuk brush, the black one, they are too heavy, but like you said the gardiner brushes just do not last long  enough, especially with hot water.

The website says they are suitable for 60deg heat, i have mine at 40 deg, and the bristles still go out of shape in no time.

I will have to disagree on the quic loc though, i think that they are brilliant and make life so much easier.

Glad you like the QuicK-LoQ range.

With regard to hot water use which brushes were you using with hot water?

Ideally for hot water use, the Stiff version of each brush is the most suitable for hot water use - the most suited to hot water use overall is the Super-Lite DT Stiff. We have produced a guide to try and help users navigate which of our extensive range of brushes is best suited for the type of work and water used - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Brush%20Guide%20Chart%20August%202013.pdf

Hi Alex, I've used tj extreme medium mixed, both the old and new style, the older one lasted longer than the current one, then I got the standard xtreme which lasted longer, but the bristles soon started going out of shape and I've used the DT medium mixed, and again the bristles soon started going out of shape.

I have tried the stiff DT, but I am not keen on it.

I realise the problem lies with using hot water, but the perfect brush for this is not out there, I want an extreme brush that has more tightly packed bristles which might help stop the bristles going out of shape,

I've decided to give the black aerial brush ago as they have thicker bristles but doesn't require much pressure on the glass, unfortunately they way a lot more than the extremes  :( perhaps you could make a specific hot water extreme brush  ;) ;D

Hi Lee

I will email you regarding a brush I want you to try.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2013, 07:43:10 pm »
A great company done well .
But a light brush isn't the be and end all .
Having a Slightly heavier brush does assist in cleaning and we're not as exactly talking a brick weight difference .
I need a brush that scrubs well , and lasts a longer time than the gardiners one .
Saves me money and a better clean .
My opioion that's all .
The gardiner ones are that light they obviously lose the other important factors such as ability to scrub and last long .
Go any lighter and why , be like having a feather on the end of the pole .

A fair few have changed to other brushes , but gardiners will still get my business from time to time but not as much
Variety is the good and now there's competition in the Wfp market .

New poles from aqua adaptor look impressive - a good clamping system


Hi Kempy

Just to clarify, looking back at your brush buying history from us so far this year, you seem to be basing your comments on all of our brush range (15 brushes) on just the purchase of the Sill Soft brushes. This brush is our least robust brush and is not indicative of the life span and scrubbing ability of the rest of our brush range as many of our clients will attest to.

We originally had this brush made for those that wanted a very soft brush and still wanted to clean sills. We are now phasing this brush out as in my opinion is just too soft a brush especially in the radius sill design and cannot offer the longevity that our brushes typically offer.
your not phasing the normal soft brush out are you? Please say no.

Which soft brush are you referring to?

Alex Gardiner

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2013, 07:44:58 pm »
If Alex would make a sill brush weighing 160ish grams with white bristles and the new blue ones you would have an unbeatable brush.


Those blue bristles are awesome!

i would buy one of these , any plans alex?



I'm looking into it as it is possible  :)

Alex Gardiner

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2013, 07:45:39 pm »
these quick-loq 90 brush sockets, £2.95,      do you just screw them onto brush,     then add brush on and off when needed,  replacing your screw one which is already on brush base.

Yes  :D

Clever Forum Name

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2013, 07:55:06 pm »
Emailed you Alex. You should recognise the names ;)

Dani J

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2013, 08:17:12 pm »
Alex
How do you get time to answer so many e mails and at the same time run your great business?
I am so amazed, every time I email you regarding an issue or even a question or guide , you are so quick with your reply that is second to none.
I truly admire you mate.
I wish you expand your company world wide and retire billionaire, you truly deserve it. :)

Clever Forum Name

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2013, 08:18:12 pm »
Alex
How do you get time to answer so many e mails and at the same time run your great business?
I am so amazed, every time I email you regarding an issue or even a question or guide , you are so quick with your reply that is second to none.
I truly admire you mate.
I wish you expand your company world wide and retire billionaire, you truly deserve it. :)


When he does that, free extreme poles and brushes all round :D

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2013, 08:20:36 pm »
Alex
How do you get time to answer so many e mails and at the same time run your great business?
I am so amazed, every time I email you regarding an issue or even a question or guide , you are so quick with your reply that is second to none.
I truly admire you mate.
I wish you expand your company world wide and retire billionaire, you truly deserve it. :)


He IS a billionaire & it's his minions that reply to all the emails!! :D 

Alex Gardiner

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2013, 08:30:58 pm »
Alex
How do you get time to answer so many e mails and at the same time run your great business?
I am so amazed, every time I email you regarding an issue or even a question or guide , you are so quick with your reply that is second to none.
I truly admire you mate.
I wish you expand your company world wide and retire billionaire, you truly deserve it. :)


I have successfully achieved the art of cloning - I am actually reading a book right now, 'me No.17' is typing this with my exact thoughts  ;D

bobplum

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2013, 08:48:45 pm »
Alex
How do you get time to answer so many e mails and at the same time run your great business?
I am so amazed, every time I email you regarding an issue or even a question or guide , you are so quick with your reply that is second to none.
I truly admire you mate.
I wish you expand your company world wide and retire billionaire, you truly deserve it. :)


I have successfully achieved the art of cloning - I am actually reading a book right now, 'me No.17' is typing this with my exact thoughts  ;D

quick one alex
on the website under super lite xtreme STIFF dual trim brush in the product review it says ...bristle stiffness.. medium ??

Dani J

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2013, 08:51:55 pm »
Alex
How do you get time to answer so many e mails and at the same time run your great business?
I am so amazed, every time I email you regarding an issue or even a question or guide , you are so quick with your reply that is second to none.
I truly admire you mate.
I wish you expand your company world wide and retire billionaire, you truly deserve it. :)


I have successfully achieved the art of cloning - I am actually reading a book right now, 'me No.17' is typing this with my exact thoughts  ;D

Thats great  :)  Ad to that, i think you should write a book so that way, you just dont have to do much, the book will bring a lot of revenue as well  ;)
These days, any one who get a little publicity on T.V. get a book out straight away, must be a great revenue from just writiing a book, and they dont even write the book, they get the goest writers to do it   ;D

Alex Gardiner

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2013, 08:52:21 pm »
Alex
How do you get time to answer so many e mails and at the same time run your great business?
I am so amazed, every time I email you regarding an issue or even a question or guide , you are so quick with your reply that is second to none.
I truly admire you mate.
I wish you expand your company world wide and retire billionaire, you truly deserve it. :)


I have successfully achieved the art of cloning - I am actually reading a book right now, 'me No.17' is typing this with my exact thoughts  ;D

quick one alex
on the website under super lite xtreme STIFF dual trim brush in the product review it says ...bristle stiffness.. medium ??

The bristles on this Xtreme Stiff brush are the same stiff bristles as the other stiff brushes in the range, but because the brush has far fewer rows of bristles it feels more like a medium brush. I will try and see if I can make this clearer on the website.

Stephen Fox

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2013, 08:55:06 pm »
Out of interest and research.... how do people find the Extreme brush? It is comparable to a toothbrush too most brushes on the market with a very small scrubbing area. If you can clean a window in half the time with a little extra weight why wouldn't you?

robert mitchell

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2013, 08:55:56 pm »
If Alex would make a sill brush weighing 160ish grams with white bristles and the new blue ones you would have an unbeatable brush.


Those blue bristles are awesome!

i would buy one of these , any plans alex?



I'm looking into it as it is possible  :)

Brilliant Alex , will look forward to seeing it!

If you need somebody to trial it ......;-)
www.ishinewindowcleaning.co.uk

The man who never made a mistake never made anything.

Lee GLS

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2013, 09:00:04 pm »
Out of interest and research.... how do people find the Extreme brush? It is comparable to a toothbrush too most brushes on the market with a very small scrubbing area. If you can clean a window in half the time with a little extra weight why wouldn't you?

On regular cleans an extreme is all that is needed, there is very little dirt so all it need is a small agitation and rinse so therefore there is no need for the brush to have extra scrubbing power, and therefore no need to be heavier, so the you can really go any quicker

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: new gardiners brushes
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2013, 09:13:45 pm »
Out of interest and research.... how do people find the Extreme brush?

Inadequate to be honest.

Last week I had an in and out to do. I did the outsides, with an extreme brush.

Went inside to finish the job but could see the Upstairs windows on the outside hadn't come up clean regarding spider poo. Went outside to re-do all of the affected windows. Went back in, they were still the same, barely any cleaner. Extreme brushes aren't man enough.

When I clean an upstairs window I expect the brush to do the job as those spider droppings can't be seen from the ground but they will be from the inside.

I am a Gardiner customer through and through, I will be buying only super lites from now on, except I'm going to try out the cladding brush on glass to see how that is, can't be too bad at 15 squid a pop :0)