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H20cleaning

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wood paint for the back of my van??
« on: October 03, 2013, 05:05:27 pm »
at the moment I am putting money into my system to get it as water tight and ready for winter, I am ordering fiberglass to do the flooring next week when I have more money, heated system shortly after. this weekend I want to paint the plywood on the sides of my van and shelves, what paint can I use that's cheap and preferably spray able??? I have seen loads of vans with the plywood painted and looks really smart

andyM

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 05:31:00 pm »
You need to use a sealer/primer, and pay attention to the edges which will require 1 or 2 extra coats.
Something like this should be ok:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-quick-drying-primer-undercoat-white-750ml/27789
And then do a couple of top coats with the paint of your choice, maybe a black gloss or matt paint?
ps.I wouldn't use a spray paint if shelving is already installed in van. I would use a paint brush and a mini foam roller.
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H20cleaning

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2013, 05:41:25 pm »
You need to use a sealer/primer, and pay attention to the edges which will require 1 or 2 extra coats.
Something like this should be ok:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-quick-drying-primer-undercoat-white-750ml/27789
And then do a couple of top coats with the paint of your choice, maybe a black gloss or matt paint?
ps.I wouldn't use a spray paint if shelving is already installed in van. I would use a paint brush and a mini foam roller.

cheers mate I was thinking of painting them gloss white, as the floor will be baby blue! I have had a look at a few other vans that have done the same and looks qualitty

CleanClear

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 11:21:51 pm »
at the moment I am putting money into my system to get it as water tight and ready for winter, I am ordering fiberglass to do the flooring next week when I have more money, heated system shortly after. this weekend I want to paint the plywood on the sides of my van and shelves, what paint can I use that's cheap and preferably spray able??? I have seen loads of vans with the plywood painted and looks really smart

I'll offer you some sound advice here. Don't bother fibreglassing the back of your van, its a waste of money. Don't bother with protectacote either. If you've got leaks then just fix them. Contrary to popular opinion "pure water" will not eat away at your metal work and leave your van bereft of a floor and any sort of a chassis as soon as it touches it.
 Get yourself something like this

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Other colours available and save yourself a few bob.
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H20cleaning

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2013, 11:27:40 pm »
Everyone raves about protectakote!
Fiberglass will only cost £56.00 and it will improve appearance and keep everything easy to clean nos worse than the smell of wet wood mate

CleanClear

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 11:33:18 pm »
Everyone raves about protectakote!
Fiberglass will only cost £56.00 and it will improve appearance and keep everything easy to clean nos worse than the smell of wet wood mate

Don't let me put you off it, there's nothing wrong with it and it looks great. As long as you understand you are paying for what it looks like rather that what you need it to do.
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H20cleaning

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2013, 12:25:57 am »
Everyone raves about protectakote!
Fiberglass will only cost £56.00 and it will improve appearance and keep everything easy to clean nos worse than the smell of wet wood mate

Don't let me put you off it, there's nothing wrong with it and it looks great. As long as you understand you are paying for what it looks like rather that what you need it to do.
Yeah ano mate like i say im really trying to improve the van at the moment, new poles,floor fiberglassed, shelves painted, headed system(soon) and just had professional pole hangers made  ;D

wpclean

Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2013, 01:09:51 am »
I did the boarding out of the van, and protecticote, but didn't seal the edge next to the doors . . . it is all rotten after 18 months, and I could kick myself !  I am now going to buy the stuff they put on the floors of a wet room/shower, and make a waterproof base,rising 6 inch from the floor.   

In all fairness the protectocote did its job, but the water was going under the board, and rotting from within !

CleanClear

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2013, 01:49:20 am »
Yeah ano mate like i say im really trying to improve the van at the moment, new poles,floor fiberglassed, shelves painted, headed system(soon) and just had professional pole hangers made  ;D

Heated systems are a good one. I like the adverts for them, just like the ready brek kid glowing with orange. "don't let the winter get you down" and there's a pic of a man in a fleece with a hat on. Yep thats just how to keep working in minus temps. Good to see you're well prepared. You can't go wrong.  ;D
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CleanClear

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2013, 01:51:45 am »
I did the boarding out of the van, and protecticote, but didn't seal the edge next to the doors . . . it is all rotten after 18 months, and I could kick myself !  I am now going to buy the stuff they put on the floors of a wet room/shower, and make a waterproof base,rising 6 inch from the floor.   

In all fairness the protectocote did its job, but the water was going under the board, and rotting from within !
Have i got this right, you put protectacote on a wooden floor and the water rotted the metal underneath it? Sort of like using a condom with a hole in the end?
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Barry W

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2013, 07:27:59 am »
I went to a boat yard and got the paint they paint the boats with.

H20cleaning

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2013, 07:39:44 am »
I did the boarding out of the van, and protecticote, but didn't seal the edge next to the doors . . . it is all rotten after 18 months, and I could kick myself !  I am now going to buy the stuff they put on the floors of a wet room/shower, and make a waterproof base,rising 6 inch from the floor.   

In all fairness the protectocote did its job, but the water was going under the board, and rotting from within !
you dont put protectakote ontop od wood you take the floor up, sand down the metal and then paint it
Have i got this right, you put protectacote on a wooden floor and the water rotted the metal underneath it? Sort of like using a condom with a hole in the end?

Spruce

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2013, 08:22:01 am »
I would Protectakote the floor TBH.

I would take the advice of CleanClear and forget fibreglassing. Your van is a complete flat rear section and is lower than the front seats, so any water spills aren't going into the cabin area.

The reason why I would use Protectakote is that it provides a non slip finish as the paint has rubber granules in it. I've slipped on a painted floor with wet shoes and hurt myself.

There should be a couple of predrilled holes in the front of the van, probably in the corners with rubber grommets. Remove those so any water can escape.

If you had a Berlingo or other car derived van (no longer the right description nowdays) then fibreglassing the rear could be a solution. The cargo floor is higher than the drivers floor. The other issue is that these vans are designed as people carriers with rear seats, so the manufacturers just covered the rear footwells with a plate to level the cargo bay off which isn't water proof.
However, I would rather go to your local motor factors and buy a tube of seam sealer and apply it to these joins, wait for it to harden and the Protectakote. (If you open the boot of your car and lift the carpet, you will see evidence of the manufacturers seam sealer in action, especially if you have a car with the spare wheel inside the boot.)

You can also buy flashing sealer strip at B&Q that you could use to seal any large gaps with.

Again, the best advise has already been given in this thread, that being to make sure you don't have leaks. We have found the hose reel was the worst offender. When we disconnect the hose reel, we click another hoselock hose fitting on that is sealed, so we don't get drips from that.

If the hose reel is dirty, then I usually wash it down outside the van and let it drip. If it is still dripping when I come to reload it, I just stick a towel under it to catch the drips. Before the poles get put away, excess water on the brush head is removed with a quick flick.   
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H20cleaning

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2013, 09:02:09 am »
Just to let you know spruce i have a nissan primastar with bulkhead so water ever gets in the fromt area, i just wanted the back to look better than damp wood all the time, and i often pick up motorbikes etc in my van aswell so would be easier to clean down. Thanks for feedback though

Spruce

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2013, 08:04:21 pm »
Just to let you know spruce i have a nissan primastar with bulkhead so water ever gets in the fromt area, i just wanted the back to look better than damp wood all the time, and i often pick up motorbikes etc in my van aswell so would be easier to clean down. Thanks for feedback though

The bulkhead isn't water proof but yes it will stop splashes getting into your cabin. And as I said earlier if you flooed your van is won't get in as the cargo area is lower than the cabin floor.

It is recommended that you remove the ply floor and paint onto the bare metal. Having a wooden floor will speed up rust as the wood will hold moisture - you don't want that.
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Steve H

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2013, 09:01:09 pm »
sorry guys but as mentioned wouldnt you just use protectakote on the original van floor, rather than on wood!!!! I know vans are often boarded out, but you can take the wooden floor up as it will eventually leak underneath for sure unless you seal every gap. Only my opinion, but i thought the protectakote was meant for the van floor (as non slip etc) and not the wood (which is only plywood) :)
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H20cleaning

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Re: wood paint for the back of my van??
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2013, 10:10:40 pm »
Just to let you know spruce i have a nissan primastar with bulkhead so water ever gets in the fromt area, i just wanted the back to look better than damp wood all the time, and i often pick up motorbikes etc in my van aswell so would be easier to clean down. Thanks for feedback though

The bulkhead isn't water proof but yes it will stop splashes getting into your cabin. And as I said earlier if you flooed your van is won't get in as the cargo area is lower than the cabin floor.

It is recommended that you remove the ply floor and paint onto the bare metal. Having a wooden floor will speed up rust as the wood will hold moisture - you don't want that.
my reason for wanting to fibreglass the back isn't because I flood the van.... its simply so it looks neat tidy and any splashes are easily mopped up.