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Darren Spreadbury

  • Posts: 92
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2013, 10:36:33 pm »
So for the first 3 months you wasn't earning enough to pay for you house BUT after another 3 months you could and also employ 4 people.? ???

Darren Spreadbury

  • Posts: 92
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2013, 10:38:29 pm »
Had to borrow £10 then weeks later two vans employing 4 people . yeah right lol


2 weeks later NO dont be so stupid it takes longer than that for people to pay you.

sorry i didnt read it corectly, but stupid im not, if you thinks i talking crap well just dont read the post, I'm sorry if your business is'nt doing as well as you planned but no need to put others down and call them stupid, im only here to talk to decent people and people like you ruin it for others who want to gain knowlege from other decent members
you called me stupid but that's ok is it

matthewpaul

  • Posts: 19
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2013, 10:41:03 pm »
So for the first 3 months you wasn't earning enough to pay for you house BUT after another 3 months you could and also employ 4 people.? ???

i didnt say i was loaded or making a fortune, my cleaners probally make more than me but i make enougth to get by and the jobs i have get done to a high standard i didnt choose to do it myself to make a fortune then take somebody on, so you are telling me i cant get 5 contracts and a window cleaning round in 7 month WHY NOT

matthewpaul

  • Posts: 19
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2013, 10:43:43 pm »
Had to borrow £10 then weeks later two vans employing 4 people . yeah right lol


2 weeks later NO dont be so stupid it takes longer than that for people to pay you.

sorry i didnt read it corectly, but stupid im not, if you thinks i talking crap well just dont read the post, I'm sorry if your business is'nt doing as well as you planned but no need to put others down and call them stupid, im only here to talk to decent people and people like you ruin it for others who want to gain knowlege from other decent members
you called me stupid but that's ok is it

very aggressive,i said dont be stupid, listen mate just pi55 off to another post i want to hear from decent members dont ruin whats supposed to be a good forum.

Wheeliebin

  • Posts: 28
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2013, 10:44:32 pm »
Perhaps the people Matthew employs are paid monthly and he can then pay their wages out of the income they have generated in that month.
Can you consider looking out side the box before suggesting that things can't be done. Plenty of people have to rob Peter to pay Paul when starting up a new business. Like when he said he got the contract before staff. How do you know what terms the work is that he ash got. Are you suggesting that every commercial job takes ages to pay??
The pub I do pays me there and then.
He also does part residential work from the canvassing he did  and they all pay on the spot, or close enough to. Maybe he used that money to pay the other cleaners?
There are lots of ways he can make it work, so why don't you spend a couple of minutes any positive information you may have for him rather doubting it all so quickly?

Darren Spreadbury

  • Posts: 92
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2013, 10:45:26 pm »
It is possible to get contracts and a window cleaning round in less than 7 months, it's the 4 people bit thats 5 wages a week I find hard to believe . Are they full time or just 4-5 hours a week each.

matthewpaul

  • Posts: 19
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2013, 10:52:52 pm »
It is possible to get contracts and a window cleaning round in less than 7 months, it's the 4 people bit thats 5 wages a week I find hard to believe . Are they full time or just 4-5 hours a week each.

all part time the window cleaners work 12 full days per month and cleaner work 6 days a week less than 5 hours per day if they were all full time i would be paying thousands a month in wages im afraid i dont have that money afetr costs

Wheeliebin

  • Posts: 28
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2013, 10:55:05 pm »
Tomorrow I have 4 door knockers going out, one window cleaner and the fella he is training to clean 20 houses, me and another fella going out to clean 99 wheelie bins.
I have 214 window cleaning customers, and 942 bin cleaning customers.

I start 8 weeks ago, not 8 months.



Darren Spreadbury

  • Posts: 92
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2013, 10:56:15 pm »
Ok fair play, just on a wind up tonight.

Wheeliebin

  • Posts: 28
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2013, 10:58:36 pm »
I make £0  money each week as I need to put it all back in to pay people and upgrade my stuff as I go.
But after another 8 weeks I reckon I will have 500 window customers and 1600 bins a month. I might sit down for a day off then.

Once I hit that I might be able to buy some food too, as I might be making a bit....

paul ette

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Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2013, 08:15:59 am »
god i need a canvasser, well done if youve worked from nothing

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2013, 08:33:55 am »
The big I am, bla bla. Heard it all before.

home6442

Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2013, 08:41:03 am »
is this not spam trying to get people to join a network group? sounds too good to be true
nothing comes easy, probly wrong but just a thought


Totally agree.
Come on guys wake up and smell the coffee before some poor sod gets taken for £600.
Cant believe that some of the so called successful windows cleaners have fallen for this
makes you wonder are some of these guys really window cleaners?

H20cleaning

  • Posts: 2098
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2013, 09:49:05 am »
Thank god people have agreed with me... Its simply impossible to achieve this without
Fianancial backing

C o z y

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Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2013, 12:21:26 pm »
Relax a bit here lads. I understand that doubt creeps in with these numbers. See my first comment. I work a lot of military housing over here, and there are a couple of guys who work in the same areas as we do. I canvass by leafleting and follow up knocking within 3 to 5 days of dropping leaflets. This gets a really good result. My competition go around sticking self printed little notes "We are in the area cleaning windows tomorrow. Houses cost €15. Please tick box and leave your initials if you want them cleaned."

They seem to get a hit rate every month of about one in twenty. In the same areas, I canvass every 2 years when new people are posted into the areas. I get a thirty percent hit rate.

So same potential customers, but totally different results. Some people are good at putting things together, some not so good. Some guys hate knocking, others enjoy it.

I've not seen the OP contradict himself. I think he may have explained things a bit too simply, but it sounds possible to me.

I'll excuse myself from being naive, by explaining that all my Brit custies live in compact estates and in uniform housing, so whole areas can be worked for a set standard price.

Another point that needs making is, I remember an old Amway tape once, it said: "if you keep fleas in a jar with a lid on it, they quickly learn not to jump higher than the lid, so as to avoid hitting their heads on the lid. When the lid is removed, they still only jump to the learned height.

Some of us need to take the lid off our jar."
No still don't understand, I must be thick

Ian101

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Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2013, 01:54:23 pm »
Amway tapes were good - let's all be diamonds

C o z y

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Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2013, 02:13:24 pm »
Amway tapes were good - let's all be diamonds

 ;D Glad somebody remembers them lol. I found the books still help me. Threw the tapes away about 10 years ago!! They were good sometimes.
No still don't understand, I must be thick

Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2013, 03:05:44 pm »
Does seem strange to join this forum to tell us how well his done, after a few days as a member.

Ian Lancaster

  • Posts: 2811
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2013, 03:55:31 pm »
I met this guy while we were on holiday in Scotland - only 20 yrs old.  Been going just on two years, got three vans and three employees - work all over the north coast of Scotland (this hotel was out in the wilds - nearest town about 15 miles away).

Not quite in the same league as matthewpaul but still well on the way to his first million - some people just seem to have that Midas touch :)

Those legs showing at the bottom of the door are mine, by the way ;D




H20cleaning

  • Posts: 2098
Re: Where is your Business
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2013, 06:19:22 pm »
I met this guy while we were on holiday in Scotland - only 20 yrs old.  Been going just on two years, got three vans and three employees - work all over the north coast of Scotland (this hotel was out in the wilds - nearest town about 15 miles away).

Not quite in the same league as matthewpaul but still well on the way to his first million - some people just seem to have that Midas touch :)

Those legs showing at the bottom of the door are mine, by the way










if he in the white tshirt is 20 years old... then he has had a hard paper round;)
hahaha