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wpclean

How much sand ?
« on: August 01, 2013, 09:26:59 pm »
Just got my first block paving job, which is about 36 sq m, how much sand will I need to finish the job, and where is the best place to buy it from please ?

Thank you for any advice  ;D

Roger Oakley

Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2013, 10:06:46 pm »
I can't tell you the best place to buy from as I don't know where you are based.
But rule of thumb, 1kg per sq mt will get you close, and this is how you should have priced the job once you know what your local BM is charging for KDS. Is it 200x100 pavers or Tegula, or drive-sett pavers? Different pavers = different sand amounts.

wpclean

Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2013, 10:15:21 pm »
Me, and my big mouth !

Roger Oakley

Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2013, 10:23:23 pm »
Me, and my big mouth !
Put a photo up and I'll tell you what surface you have

wpclean

Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2013, 11:09:15 pm »
It is block paving, laid out in a pattern that look like red bricks, in lines that are zig zag.

wpclean

Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2013, 11:12:54 pm »
I just want to get experience in using using the machine to start with, so as long as the first few customers are 100% happy, then I can stand the loss  ;D

Griffus

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 11:26:41 pm »
1 to 2 bags depending on block type, gap width, problem areas.

Sand about £2.50 a bag so always take too much. Way better tan too little and you'll use it next job anyway.

Ian101

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2013, 10:01:45 am »
im still learning this trade  ;D ... got about 15 block drives under my belt and what I find can effect amount of sand is how many times the cowboys have cleaned it before you and have never bothered to resand - plus if they have done it with the karcher a lot more sand will have been lost so now just take to much with me.

Only a few quid a bag so if you have a garage or somewhere dry to store just buy 20 bags a time this also means you can have the same shade of red or yellow - unlike me who had a job that needed 4 bags and only had 3 yellow and 1 red as everywhere local was either shut or sold out so just mixed them together  :o

Kenny83

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2013, 11:50:13 am »
1 to 2 bags depending on block type, gap width, problem areas.

Sand about £2.50 a bag so always take too much. Way better tan too little and you'll use it next job anyway.

Where is it for sale at that price mate? Would be interesting to know what people are for kiln dried as I'm currently paying 3.30 plus vat for hansons which I think is the best sand in have come across. With Bathgate being second
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Jettaway

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2013, 03:04:06 pm »
I buy in bulk from wickes. Comes to about £3.90 a bag. Plus I love the colour of their sand.

G O Cleaning

Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2013, 04:50:05 pm »
1 to 2 bags depending on block type, gap width, problem areas.

Sand about £2.50 a bag so always take too much. Way better tan too little and you'll use it next job anyway.

Where is it for sale at that price mate? Would be interesting to know what people are for kiln dried as I'm currently paying 3.30 plus vat for hansons which I think is the best sand in have come across. With Bathgate being second
lee around here most sheds will do u a deal we pay around 2,60plus vat same price pallet or small quants.with pallet get free delivery.
If u buy from wickes they price match so don't pay their shop price ;)

Matt Gibson

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2013, 05:09:23 pm »
Jewsons here. I opened an account and told them i would only be buying sand and asked for their best price. Just under 2.70 + vat.

Griffus

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2013, 06:23:19 pm »
1 to 2 bags depending on block type, gap width, problem areas.

Sand about £2.50 a bag so always take too much. Way better tan too little and you'll use it next job anyway.

Where is it for sale at that price mate? Would be interesting to know what people are for kiln dried as I'm currently paying 3.30 plus vat for hansons which I think is the best sand in have come across. With Bathgate being second

Two local builders merchants.

http://www.d-gill.co.uk/building_materials.html

http://www.rantonbuildingsupplies.co.uk/




wpclean

Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2013, 11:03:05 pm »
Thank you for the replies, been most helpful  ;D

wpclean

Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2013, 09:15:19 pm »
I used two bags at £3. 20 each, bought from Jewsons, and I really enjoyed doing it, only took half an hour  ;D

Jettaway

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2013, 10:53:21 pm »
Pleased it went well for you mate.

Must have been deep joints though, but congrats on the job going well

Neil Jones

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2013, 12:36:01 am »
Selco £2.20 + VAT

Ashley Brothwood

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2013, 08:37:31 pm »
How much sand do you think for around 2000m2 of slabs. Each slab is around 1ft x 1ft with the odd bit of smaller slabs in between every so often.
Thanks
Ashley

Griffus

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2013, 01:18:04 am »
How much sand do you think for around 2000m2 of slabs. Each slab is around 1ft x 1ft with the odd bit of smaller slabs in between every so often.
Thanks
Ashley

KDS not really suitable for between slabs. What's in the joints now? Usually need pointing up or you can get a brush in (Cementone or similar). For 2000 square metre though this will cost a fortune so best mix your own, or pass on to a groundworking firm and take a commision.

A sensible option is that you clean then the repoint.

Ashley Brothwood

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Re: How much sand ?
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2013, 04:52:52 pm »
Hi yes there cleaned and have been asked to put kiln dried sand back in when it's all finished.
I was thinking around 1t