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JamesAJF

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Cbm240e booster pump New
« on: June 28, 2013, 04:48:21 pm »
cbm240e booster pump. i no there are a lot of guys say this pump is good but how do u rig it up  can i use normal hose on the inlet and outlet? or do i need to use copper pipe? i have a 4020 ro i fort it was a 4040 but its not i been told that a diaphragm pump wont be no good so i need a garden hose booster pump i want something that is not gonna collapse my hose but powerful enough to fill my tank up quick and need good presser to to keep me ro and resin clean any one got any answers? most i can spent is £300 but cheaper the better thanks james. ???
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JamesAJF

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2013, 04:57:28 pm »
and what psi and flo rate do i need to fill a 250L tank up quick or quicker? and how much pressure does the hose collapse at ? sorry for all the boring questions but i need them answered thanks guys
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dave0123

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2013, 05:01:05 pm »
Whats the pressure of your tap without a pump?


Just connect it up to your tap or what ever you connect your RO to using standard garden hose. The pump has 1 inch fittings you will have to buy reducing bush's
Dave.

JamesAJF

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2013, 05:02:21 pm »
and could i use a diaphragm pump course the window cleaning warehouse said it wont be no good for a 4020 ro is that true or a they trying to put me off so i buy something really exspensive :-X
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JamesAJF

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2013, 05:05:19 pm »
Whats the pressure of your tap without a pump?


Just connect it up to your tap or what ever you connect your RO to using standard garden hose. The pump has 1 inch fittings you will have to buy reducing bush's
well it does not come out very fast im not sure what the psi off my tap water is but not great
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dave0123

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2013, 05:06:41 pm »
whats a garden hose booster pump when its at home?
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Geoff

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2013, 05:10:03 pm »
No one really knows, but don't worry, the suppliers will charge you top dollar for anything old pump they flog you.

JamesAJF

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2013, 05:15:39 pm »
well i need a booster pump that connects to standard hose but one bloke said i need to use copper pipe as it will collapse the hose but the pump is only 5 bar witch is only what 70 psi i can wee faster then that so i cant see why i need copper pipe im just getting told all different things from ppl and i don't no who is right or wrong and i cant afford to spent out loads off money on something that is not  gonna work.so i need to understand everything about and get the right pump before i buy ???  
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JamesAJF

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2013, 05:17:39 pm »
what do u guys use ?
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dave0123

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2013, 05:27:16 pm »
I use the clarke CBM2040E pump for 5 years never failed or no problems. its connected to garden hose re-inforced basically its just the garden hose thats slightly stronger than standard.

i cant see why the window cleaning warehouse have said do not use that with a 4021 ro membrane, they still need about 80 odd psi even for the ultra-low pressure membrane.

Dont get mixed up by PSI and flow though, just because your tap doesn't flow fast.. it doesnt mean the pressure is bad .. pressure and water flow are two different things.

... for example you can buy different window cleaning pumps to pump water up your pole both may be 100 psi but some pump different amounts of water per min, some 5 liters some about  4 liters etc.
Dave.

robert mitchell

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2013, 05:29:19 pm »
You wont need copper pipe just garden hose , I have a similar pump from lidl £50 80psi and works really well for my 4040 .

 Long as you are drawing from a pressure fed supply and not from a static supply your hose will not collapse .
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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2013, 06:05:13 pm »
You wont need copper pipe just garden hose , I have a similar pump from lidl £50 80psi and works really well for my 4040 .

 Long as you are drawing from a pressure fed supply and not from a static supply your hose will not collapse .

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craig21t

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2013, 10:33:34 pm »
I use the clarke CBM2040E pump for 5 years never failed or no problems. its connected to garden hose re-inforced basically its just the garden hose thats slightly stronger than standard.

i cant see why the window cleaning warehouse have said do not use that with a 4021 ro membrane, they still need about 80 odd psi even for the ultra-low pressure membrane.

Dont get mixed up by PSI and flow though, just because your tap doesn't flow fast.. it doesnt mean the pressure is bad .. pressure and water flow are two different things.

... for example you can buy different window cleaning pumps to pump water up your pole both may be 100 psi but some pump different amounts of water per min, some 5 liters some about  4 liters etc.

Is the Clarke one a diaphragm pump? Because James says he been advised not to use a diaphragm pump.
We tried using one of the pumps off our system on our ro, but it actually slowed it down. But the pump was old.
James could you tap be slowing the flow? How do you connect to the tap?

CleanClear

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2013, 11:02:35 pm »
Save yourself about  £200 and get this........
http://youtu.be/ykdXBEX8eGU

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/051012200

Ours is early days yet its two years old. I'll let everyone know if it develops a fault. It probably makes about 7000 litres a week or more.

Of course you could stick with the CBM 240E, some of the lads here recon they're quality.
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dave0123

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2013, 11:16:49 pm »
It hasn't slowed my system down it dramatically increased the pure water flow.. lots use that pump on here i do not no why he was been advised against it by just because hes using a 4021.

The pump i am using was advised to me on here 5 years ago... and by Gaps water, lowered  my tds quite a bit
Dave.

dave0123

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2013, 11:22:11 pm »
http://www.gapswater.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_copy_of_Membranes_used_in_window_cleaning_water_fed_pole_systems-1.html


go to the bottom of the page here james, you will find lots of text telling u about the membranes we use as window cleaners. This may help you, its not talking about pumps but it might gasp you some more information about your setup.
Dave.

JamesAJF

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2013, 02:23:43 am »
I use the clarke CBM2040E pump for 5 years never failed or no problems. its connected to garden hose re-inforced basically its just the garden hose thats slightly stronger than standard.

i cant see why the window cleaning warehouse have said do not use that with a 4021 ro membrane, they still need about 80 odd psi even for the ultra-low pressure membrane.

Dont get mixed up by PSI and flow though, just because your tap doesn't flow fast.. it doesnt mean the pressure is bad .. pressure and water flow are two different things.

... for example you can buy different window cleaning pumps to pump water up your pole both may be 100 psi but some pump different amounts of water per min, some 5 liters some about  4 liters etc.

Is the Clarke one a diaphragm pump? Because James says he been advised not to use a diaphragm pump.
We tried using one of the pumps off our system on our ro, but it actually slowed it down. But the pump was old.
James could you tap be slowing the flow? How do you connect to the tap?
that's exactly what the guy said to me at window cleaning wear house its more likely to slow it dawn so this is why im trying to go for one of them big pumps but i went to a place close to were i live called espa pumps so i asked them and they said u wont be able to us a big pump like the clark cbm 240e cause it will collapse your hose it needs to have a copper pipe to stop it from collapse so me not knowing sod all about pumps believed him now u lot are saying its fine with slightly heavy duty hose and if it is then i will get this i think i need flo more then psi because flo means volume and psi means pressure when i spoke to cleaning wear house they said they only got one pump they use and sell but u have to run it off a battery well surely u can use a transformer i feel like im going round in circles with these places and another guy said its to then then at espa pumps they showed me another pump and i fort this is more like it but then they said that it is 5 bar so its to powerful for u and fort 5 bar thats only 70 psi so dont no what pump to get or witch way to go.grrrrrrrr
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JamesAJF

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2013, 02:30:26 am »
http://www.gapswater.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_copy_of_Membranes_used_in_window_cleaning_water_fed_pole_systems-1.html


go to the bottom of the page here james, you will find lots of text telling u about the membranes we use as window cleaners. This may help you, its not talking about pumps but it might gasp you some more information about your setup.
sorry i didn't get back to u dave had to go out  yer i need to lean a bit more about it all only been wfp just over 3 months now so the pump u got is a good pump and it would be ok for me and if i use some good strong hose will i be ok?
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JamesAJF

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2013, 02:49:26 am »
You wont need copper pipe just garden hose , I have a similar pump from lidl £50 80psi and works really well for my 4040 .

 Long as you are drawing from a pressure fed supply and not from a static supply your hose will not collapse .
ok thats interesting well im glad i got u guys to give me some answers cause im sure the blokes at them shops ether aint got a clue or there just making it up so i have to buy something stupidly expensive witch sounds about right the guy at window cleaning warehouse said that they have a pump but its £1100  :o  and then said to me that's cheap i mean im not a farmer looking to pump water to my crops i just want a booster pump to fill me tank up quicker  like im gonna spent that much on a pump.     
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JamesAJF

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Re: cbm240e booster pump
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2013, 03:04:44 am »
Save yourself about  £200 and get this........
http://youtu.be/ykdXBEX8eGU

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/051012200

Ours is early days yet its two years old. I'll let everyone know if it develops a fault. It probably makes about 7000 litres a week or more.

Of course you could stick with the CBM 240E, some of the lads here recon they're quality.
thanks for the links it looks good but it seems a bit noisy lol or is it because there filming really close to it witch makes it sound noisier. 
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