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Frankybadboy

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Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2013, 09:06:38 pm »
Just sums up why Andrew doesn't come on here


You lot need to get your facts rights,like old women that want a bit of gossip

Sad lives

Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2013, 09:08:21 pm »
To be fair I THINK Most nvq funding, for anyone who is looking to do a qualification 5 years after they did gcse's etc, has been cut not just impact43.
Think the cut of date is august....

All but a couple of select industries still have funding, I am glad so many window cleaning companies grabbed it whilst it was there, we have enjoyed the last Five years and I like to think the companies who attended have made good use of it.  

p1w1

  • Posts: 3873
Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2013, 09:27:08 pm »
To be fair I THINK Most nvq funding, for anyone who is looking to do a qualification 5 years after they did gcse's etc, has been cut not just impact43.
Think the cut of date is august....

All but a couple of select industries still have funding, I am glad so many window cleaning companies grabbed it whilst it was there, we have enjoyed the last Five years and I like to think the companies who attended have made good use of it.

I did thank you  :)

amayze

  • Posts: 341
Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2013, 11:01:13 pm »
I grabbed it while it was there - but got frustrated that I would send some one on a day's course, only for him to turn up at the side of the van at 2 o'clock in the afternoon !! Had lunch did 30 mins and sent home !!

Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2013, 08:20:55 am »
I grabbed it while it was there - but got frustrated that I would send some one on a day's course, only for him to turn up at the side of the van at 2 o'clock in the afternoon !! Had lunch did 30 mins and sent home !!

Andrew Hi, This would not have been an Impact course? We have over the last Five years had a couple of dates where window cleaners got the wrong date?  Can you give me a call please 07749 704671 Would like to establish more information. Thanks Andy

bobplum

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Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2013, 09:09:21 am »
To be fair I THINK Most nvq funding, for anyone who is looking to do a qualification 5 years after they did gcse's etc, has been cut not just impact43.
Think the cut of date is august....

All but a couple of select industries still have funding, I am glad so many window cleaning companies grabbed it whilst it was there, we have enjoyed the last Five years and I like to think the companies who attended have made good use of it.

I did thank you  :)

and me :D

robertphil

  • Posts: 1511
Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2013, 09:38:19 am »
can youngsters of 16,17 go on your new ladder course?  be intrested if you are

Neil Gornall

  • Posts: 640
Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2013, 09:56:06 am »
Not certain. (so don't quote me)  ;D

But I have heard from a friend who heard in the pub.

That Allegedly,  :)

The window cleaning side of things failed so they had to sell that out.

So maybe the training sides time is being taken up on damage limitation?

As often Neil your post is totally incorrect

RE Mick and Davids window cleaning business
There are changes and for a good reason
This will be on a much bigger platform
When there ready I am sure it will become public knowledge

RE Training yes funding stops in July, we for some time new this was coming
I have not made any secrets of this
Impact43 will continue to train in the industry, smaller scale but to a good base of companies we have worked with for some time
Offering refresher training including ladder
So things are Ok across the board

Regards

Andy

Why Thank you Andrew, Its very kind of you to state that most of my posts are incorrect.

As I said in my post I was not sure on this occasion just repeating what I had heard.

As for all my other incorrect posts perhaps you could enlighten me? If there are any to do with safety then I am sorry but as it was you who trained me maybe you should not have passed me. Oh but then you would not have been paid would you.

I resent the fact that you come on here and say my posts are not correct. so unless you can prove that's at least 50% of my posts (that would be most?) then perhaps a public apology is in order!  ;)

Moderator David@stives

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Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2013, 11:02:48 am »
Neil

Your posts are incorrect as stated, never seen an apology from you ?

It was you talking about them, not the other way around, so in my book they owe you nothing.

Neil Gornall

  • Posts: 640
Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2013, 12:19:02 pm »
Neil

Your posts are incorrect as stated, never seen an apology from you ?

It was you talking about them, not the other way around, so in my book they owe you nothing.

My POSTS!!!!

Perhaps both you and Andrew would be kind enough to enlighten me WHICH posts are incorrect!

By postS you imply more than one, My above post clearly states I heard from a friend so therefore was not certain of my information.
So which of my other posts would you like me to qualify?

Oh and the "apology" reference would have been understood by Andrew  ;)

Nick Wareham

  • Posts: 244
Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2013, 12:33:47 pm »
The amazing andy willis and impact43 disappeared when their funding ran out as everyone knew would happen.  When not able to claim £1,300 of our tax money for each candidate, its no suprise at all that nobody would pay their own money for it.

We can all be thankful, because if it were up to him we'd all be courdoning off the whole area every every time we used waterfed poles.

Remember this thread?  I finally, after much coaxing, got him to admit that he thought (and said so in a magazine article) that window cleaners should be courdoning off when using poles.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=161191.0;all

He is the enemy of the window cleaner, because he would quite happily see us all put under ridiculous regulations just to further his own interest - which was training.

Most people here were quite rightly outraged by what he said, and the amazing response of forum admin to that thread was a classic;



He's paid to advertise so nobody challenge him.
Well I see he's not advertising now (our taxes not paying for it anymore you see), does this mean it's now ok to point out that he hasn't got a clue?

Good riddance I say, I just wish someone hadn't summoned him back again.  Maybe he'll come up with another totally mis-interpreted and impractical thing he thinks window cleaners should have to do, just so he can charge them for training.

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2013, 03:26:28 pm »
The amazing andy willis and impact43 disappeared when their funding ran out as everyone knew would happen.  When not able to claim £1,300 of our tax money for each candidate, its no suprise at all that nobody would pay their own money for it.

We can all be thankful, because if it were up to him we'd all be courdoning off the whole area every every time we used waterfed poles.

Remember this thread?  I finally, after much coaxing, got him to admit that he thought (and said so in a magazine article) that window cleaners should be courdoning off when using poles.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=161191.0;all

He is the enemy of the window cleaner, because he would quite happily see us all put under ridiculous regulations just to further his own interest - which was training.

Most people here were quite rightly outraged by what he said, and the amazing response of forum admin to that thread was a classic;



He's paid to advertise so nobody challenge him.
Well I see he's not advertising now (our taxes not paying for it anymore you see), does this mean it's now ok to point out that he hasn't got a clue?

Good riddance I say, I just wish someone hadn't summoned him back again.  Maybe he'll come up with another totally mis-interpreted and impractical thing he thinks window cleaners should have to do, just so he can charge them for training.

Pretty much- bang on!! ;D ;D ;D

Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2013, 06:46:55 pm »
Neil

Your posts are incorrect as stated, never seen an apology from you ?

It was you talking about them, not the other way around, so in my book they owe you nothing.

My POSTS!!!!

Perhaps both you and Andrew would be kind enough to enlighten me WHICH posts are incorrect!

By postS you imply more than one, My above post clearly states I heard from a friend so therefore was not certain of my information.
So which of my other posts would you like me to qualify?

Oh and the "apology" reference would have been understood by Andrew  ;)


Neil,

You have my mobile number

You want to put posts on here about Impact
David or Micks business with the content you have posted
I suggest ring us and I would have put you straight


 
 

Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2013, 07:28:22 pm »
The amazing andy willis and impact43 disappeared when their funding ran out as everyone knew would happen.  When not able to claim £1,300 of our tax money for each candidate, its no suprise at all that nobody would pay their own money for it.

We can all be thankful, because if it were up to him we'd all be courdoning off the whole area every every time we used waterfed poles.

Remember this thread?  I finally, after much coaxing, got him to admit that he thought (and said so in a magazine article) that window cleaners should be courdoning off when using poles.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=161191.0;all

He is the enemy of the window cleaner, because he would quite happily see us all put under ridiculous regulations just to further his own interest - which was training.

Most people here were quite rightly outraged by what he said, and the amazing response of forum admin to that thread was a classic;



He's paid to advertise so nobody challenge him.
Well I see he's not advertising now (our taxes not paying for it anymore you see), does this mean it's now ok to point out that he hasn't got a clue?

Good riddance I say, I just wish someone hadn't summoned him back again.  Maybe he'll come up with another totally mis-interpreted and impractical thing he thinks window cleaners should have to do, just so he can charge them for training.

Nick

If you are so sure about you experience and knowledge why not attend one of our final workshops and get a chance to question the information I provide face to face
Instead of coming on here and always running Impact down
Would it not be better to actually have something valid to say
If I am wrong your have a field day

Any day you attend would be free training
Not funded

My mobile number is 07749 704671

Regards


Andy

 



Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2013, 07:29:35 pm »
The amazing andy willis and impact43 disappeared when their funding ran out as everyone knew would happen.  When not able to claim £1,300 of our tax money for each candidate, its no suprise at all that nobody would pay their own money for it.

We can all be thankful, because if it were up to him we'd all be courdoning off the whole area every every time we used waterfed poles.

Remember this thread?  I finally, after much coaxing, got him to admit that he thought (and said so in a magazine article) that window cleaners should be courdoning off when using poles.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=161191.0;all

He is the enemy of the window cleaner, because he would quite happily see us all put under ridiculous regulations just to further his own interest - which was training.

Most people here were quite rightly outraged by what he said, and the amazing response of forum admin to that thread was a classic;



He's paid to advertise so nobody challenge him.
Well I see he's not advertising now (our taxes not paying for it anymore you see), does this mean it's now ok to point out that he hasn't got a clue?

Good riddance I say, I just wish someone hadn't summoned him back again.  Maybe he'll come up with another totally mis-interpreted and impractical thing he thinks window cleaners should have to do, just so he can charge them for training.

Pretty much- bang on!! ;D ;D ;D

Sorry don't know your name

If you are so sure about you experience and knowledge why not attend one of our final workshops and get a chance to question the information I provide face to face
Instead of coming on here and always running Impact down
Would it not be better to actually have something valid to say
If I am wrong your have a field day

Any day you attend would be free training
Not funded

My mobile number is 07749 704671

Regards


Andy

Neil Gornall

  • Posts: 640
Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2013, 07:36:35 pm »
Neil

Your posts are incorrect as stated, never seen an apology from you ?

It was you talking about them, not the other way around, so in my book they owe you nothing.

My POSTS!!!!

Perhaps both you and Andrew would be kind enough to enlighten me WHICH posts are incorrect!

By postS you imply more than one, My above post clearly states I heard from a friend so therefore was not certain of my information.
So which of my other posts would you like me to qualify?

Oh and the "apology" reference would have been understood by Andrew  ;)


Neil,

You have my mobile number

You want to put posts on here about Impact
David or Micks business with the content you have posted
I suggest ring us and I would have put you straight


 
 

Andrew

If I was interested or felt it affected me in any way I would have called, you know that as I have done so in the past.

But the fact is I am not even slightly interested what clean safe or whoever they may be now are up to. And I have had no dealing with Impact43 for years so as far as I know they may be teaching primary school kids how to cross the road safely. I really don't know or care.

I did not slander anyone, as I clearly stated I was merely repeating what I had heard, isn't that after all what this forum is all about?

It would appear not in the case of certain individuals and I for one get a bit sick of it.
If I cant come on a forum and say what I feel or what I have heard, and if my posts are to be referred to as incorrect by the moderators then I see no point whatsoever in my being on here.

So I am out. Thank you and goodbye  

Nick Wareham

  • Posts: 244
Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2013, 09:29:08 pm »
Quote
Nick

If you are so sure about you experience and knowledge why not attend one of our final workshops and get a chance to question the information I provide face to face
Instead of coming on here and always running Impact down
Would it not be better to actually have something valid to say
If I am wrong your have a field day

Any day you attend would be free training
Not funded

My mobile number is 07749 704671

Regards


Andy

My, what a generous invitation from Andy Willis.  "please stop pointing out awkward things that I have said in public"

As for this sentence...

Quote
If you are so sure about you experience and knowledge

I don't really understand what you mean?  I AM sure that you said that window cleaners should be cordoning off the area when using waterfed poles.  That isn't a matter of opinion, you DID say that.  It was published in a magazine. 

In case you forget, it was in the September 2012 Issue of Tomorrow's Cleaning magazine, page 71.

Here are your exact words:



Anybody can read what you said here:
http://content.yudu.com/A1ycbp/TCSept2012/resources/3.htm

And when I challenged you about this, asking if you you thought window cleaners using poles should be courdoning off the area in order to comply with the law, (after some dodging the question) you said YES.

We all remember it

It was the day you lost all credibility on this forum and in the window cleaning industry generally.  It clearly proves that you will say anything to try and further your own interests of pushing training, even claiming that the law requires something that it certainly does NOT.

You would happily see us all put under totally impractical and unworkable regulation if it meant more money for you in terms of training.

It's no exaggeration to say that you are the enemy of the window cleaner.

I don't need to speak to you face-to-face, it is completely obvious what you are doing and what your agenda is.  It's public, because you made it so by what you said in that magazine, so it's no use you trying to keep the lid on it now with your constant requests to discuss it face-to-face blah blah.

Your own words are the problem, in particular, this:
"So what happens if a cleaner drops a pole onto a member of the public?  Regulation 10 of the Work at Height Legislation covers falling objects and makes it clear that in order to fully comply with the law, a safety one should be demarcated, ideally including cones tape or barriers."

We all know this is totally incorrect, and is you scare mongering to get people to come on your amazing training course.

The last time you couldn't cope with people pointing out these uncomfortable things, you decided to do what most people do when they lose all credibility, to delete their account and disappear.  Well, it's that time again...

CleanClear

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Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2013, 12:09:49 am »
I for one am very glad they posted here when they did. It enabled me and my colleages to get some free valuable training. Prior to that i had read some negative stuff here about them. which turned out to be untrue. I've no idea why people are negative towards them. They seem pretty good guys to me. Some of you need to get a grip. They're just ordinary guys who are clued up on the legal side of things, and of course the practical and they get paid to pass the info on. WHats the big deal? It should go without saying that the reason they aint posting so much now is that they are not offering the free courses that attracted many of us. They did point out that the funding would come to an end. And now people are complaining they aint posting?  ;D ;D
 Looks to me like they can't win no matter what they do someone will pick a fault. And as we all know, of course its Impact43's fault if someone falls over your hose and makes a claim against you. Imagine if they never told us that possibility? They'd be the biggest cowboys ever. But someone somehow has construed that its Impact43's fault for this.
 There's a lot of muppets on here. The only thing that suprises me is that Andrew Willis answers them !!
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MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2013, 12:46:21 am »
Just sums up why Andrew doesn't come on here


You lot need to get your facts rights,like old women that want a bit of gossip

Sad lives



p1w1

  • Posts: 3873
Re: impact 43 very quiet at the moment.
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2013, 07:49:12 am »
I for one am very glad they posted here when they did. It enabled me and my colleages to get some free valuable training. Prior to that i had read some negative stuff here about them. which turned out to be untrue. I've no idea why people are negative towards them. They seem pretty good guys to me. Some of you need to get a grip. They're just ordinary guys who are clued up on the legal side of things, and of course the practical and they get paid to pass the info on. WHats the big deal? It should go without saying that the reason they aint posting so much now is that they are not offering the free courses that attracted many of us. They did point out that the funding would come to an end. And now people are complaining they aint posting?  ;D ;D
 Looks to me like they can't win no matter what they do someone will pick a fault. And as we all know, of course its Impact43's fault if someone falls over your hose and makes a claim against you. Imagine if they never told us that possibility? They'd be the biggest cowboys ever. But someone somehow has construed that its Impact43's fault for this.
 There's a lot of muppets on here. The only thing that suprises me is that Andrew Willis answers them !!
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