[dave f]

canvassers do my head in i was out working the other day and a custy told me they had been a canvassing mob out and ive just missed em any way on to next job i bumped into them i asked about him canvassing all my work in that street right away he denied it but when i pulled out a leaflet  his face dropped the thing is he was under cutting big time i know its bussiness and ive posted my views on under cutting but when its being done to sell the round on these guys get my back up .i do my work to survive not to make a quick buck and ruin work ive tride to build luckily i aint lost any . ready for the flack

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

where you from please as ive been looking in to buying some work off someone that's all newly canvassered  however if its yours I will tell them to do one

[home6442]

We live in an open market and every ones entitled to work in it and charge whatever
they want.
A few weeks back a canvasser asked me what did I charge and I told him.
I know that hes going to undercut me and I honestly dont care.
Target the right type of customer, do a first class job at a fair price
and you will always have quality work.
Leave the worrying to the guys that are only able to get work by undercutting
because the customer they will get you wont want.

[SunShineCleaning]

If you look after your customers you wont have too much of an issue.

However in some areas more than other people are feeling the pinch. The customers are looking for cheaper and the canvassers/cleaners are looking to generate some income just as you are.

No-ones work is safe and no-one has the 'right' to any street, it's just how life is. If you are setting up or in th market for work it will at some time have been someone else's work.

[dave f]

you would sing a different tune if you lost half your work.look at my posts about undercutig. i am saying undercutting just to gain work and then then sell it strieght on again at a vast profit  and selling as an established round on only after one clean ,genuine window cleaners looking for work i aint got a problem with

[GB Window Cleaning]

We live in an open market and every ones entitled to work in it and charge whatever
they want.
A few weeks back a canvasser asked me what did I charge and I told him.
I know that hes going to undercut me and I honestly dont care.
Target the right type of customer, do a first class job at a fair price
and you will always have quality work.
Leave the worrying to the guys that are only able to get work by undercutting
because the customer they will get you wont want.

This is very well said sir! I second this! Infact get this guys... I've just this very minute had a windy canvass MY house!  Hehehehe. He's a bit old fashioned though, he only offers 2 or 4 weekly cleans! I mean come on, who does 2 weekly anymore for domestic? Surley that died in the 80's?!?!

[GB Window Cleaning]

you would sing a different tune if you lost half your work.look at my posts about undercutig. i am saying undercutting just to gain work and then then sell it strieght on again at a vast profit  and selling as an established round on only after one clean ,genuine window cleaners looking for work i aint got a problem with

Please dont take this the wrong way dave, But surley you didn't loose all your work overnight to undercutters? You must have lost a few here and there?! So as you lost custys you should have canvassd/leafleted more!

Hope that makes sense?

George

[wpclean]

Was it capital canvassers ?

[dave f]

i aint lost any work. all those rant on about every thing being fair game true but i bet a weeks wage they moane about  if they lost work. my post is about canvassers underrcutting just to pass work on thats all.no offence to genuine windys looking for a crust like me .by the way i have never bought work off canversers ,never will on principle

[lee_dewing]

Yep there's a canvassing team for a window cleaning company i know.

And i know a few windies bought work from these there 30-40% under-priced

They prey on guys with redundancy money, give people 1/2 days if there lucky on ladders.

[SunShineCleaning]

you would sing a different tune if you lost half your work.look at my posts about undercutig. i am saying undercutting just to gain work and then then sell it strieght on again at a vast profit  and selling as an established round on only after one clean ,genuine window cleaners looking for work i aint got a problem with

No I would have to ask myself if I was really cut out for the business. I must have been doing something shockingly wrong to loose half my work.

[mark dew]

Getting possessive over customers or territory is pointless. They nor anyone else owe us anything.

[roundbuilder]

It makes no sence canvassers undercutting or under selling themselfs. They have targets to hit so need maximum return to get paid a decent amount.

[dave f]

well some do

[DG Cleaning]

We live in an open market and every ones entitled to work in it and charge whatever
they want.
A few weeks back a canvasser asked me what did I charge and I told him.
I know that hes going to undercut me and I honestly dont care.
Target the right type of customer, do a first class job at a fair price
and you will always have quality work.
Leave the worrying to the guys that are only able to get work by undercutting
because the customer they will get you wont want.

This is very well said sir! I second this! Infact get this guys... I've just this very minute had a windy canvass MY house!  Hehehehe. He's a bit old fashioned though, he only offers 2 or 4 weekly cleans! I mean come on, who does 2 weekly anymore for domestic? Surley that died in the 80's?!?!

You wouldn't believe how many are 2 weekly round my way.
Mine are done 2 weekly £4 for a 3 bed terrace.

[Pro-Poler]

If a customer dumped you for a cheaper cleaner then the customer is not worth keeping. It's not the canvasers fault it's the customers fault.

[Perfect Windows]

you would sing a different tune if you lost half your work.look at my posts about undercutig. i am saying undercutting just to gain work and then then sell it strieght on again at a vast profit  and selling as an established round on only after one clean ,genuine window cleaners looking for work i aint got a problem with

But in your first post you said: "luckily i aint lost any"

So what's the problem?

Vin

[Stephen.C]

Dave mate chill...a bloke round here needed to hit the ground running the same time as I was just building my rounds.
He employed a canvasser and canvassed nearly all my work in a small town near me. I Lost a few as they were nearly 40% cheaper. After a period of time I had a few phone calls asking me back as this chap had disappeared, I took back 3 out of the 5 I lost at a higher price knowing I might get dumped again. That was two years ago and still have them, canvassed work is unreliable IMO as you are asking and they are not asking. The bloke who started up disappeared as quick as he appeared.
I prefer to advertise and word of mouth is almost bulletproof work.
I worried all the time and still do to a extent but after talking to long established shiners they tend to put your mined at rest.

[dave f]

i aint worried ive been shining 20 odd years its an observation like i said its the fact that just underpricing to get work to pass on thats it

[Stephen.C]

Fair enough Dave, it dose get me a bit to but we win in the long run.