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Dave Willis

Guys who don't use ladders
« on: June 15, 2013, 06:41:08 am »
I know some window cleaners in my area who don't even carry them on the van. So, who does the customer turn to to clear their gutters or unblock the S bend?
Also don't give me that rubbish about gutter vacs clearing S bends (they can't) besides they can't be fully inspected from the ground either. What about conservatory roofs too - surely you don't scrub them from ground level?

dave f

Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2013, 06:56:15 am »
quite simple book the job in for a day you aint doing windys take em with you :P

formb

Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2013, 07:03:28 am »
Why do I care who cleans out their gutters? Nasty business.

You can clean most conservatory roofs from the ground.

Ladders are not worth the hassle.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 09:28:04 am »
I know some window cleaners in my area who don't even carry them on the van. So, who does the customer turn to to clear their gutters or unblock the S bend?
Also don't give me that rubbish about gutter vacs clearing S bends (they can't) besides they can't be fully inspected from the ground either. What about conservatory roofs too - surely you don't scrub them from ground level?

I don't do them any more, guttervac was a much lower hourly rate plus a bundle more hassle than cleaning windows.

I pass the customer on to two people (one ladder, one guttervac) I know in the area whom I would trust to clean my gutters out and who turn up when they say they will.  Ditto for patio cleaning and all the other things that people on here seem mad keen to diversify into.  I clean windows.

Conny roofs, short ladder for the ones that can't be reached from the floor.

Vin

dazmond

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2013, 09:39:06 am »
make sure you have ladders on/in your van!!

they do come in handy albeit only a few times a week.

id be stuck without em!! ;D ;D
price higher/work harder!

JackieW

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 09:42:28 am »
''So, who does the customer turn to to clear their gutters or unblock the S bend?''

I've no idea. I'm a window cleaner.

Who does the customer turn to, to lay their laminate flooring?

I found that customers would ask me to unblock the downpipe, which invariably had a tennis ball stuck at the top, but would never start the conversation with,

''How much would you charge to take the tennis ball out of the pipe?''

I never charged them anyway as it only took a few minutes, but now, as I don't carry ladders, I don't even get asked.


Smudger

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2013, 09:48:18 am »
Dave - sorry mate your wrong we clear s bends just fine thank you
Camera to inspect and for total 100% certainty we drop a squash ball down ( open shoe down pipes ) or run water off the water fed pole for 2 or 3 mins with the camera watching to see if it drains away.

As for conny roofs we have a small scaffold tower that gives enough height and a stable platform to work from but many can easily be down from the ground

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Flash..

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2013, 10:11:37 am »
Dave - sorry mate your wrong we clear s bends just fine thank you
Camera to inspect and for total 100% certainty we drop a squash ball down ( open shoe down pipes )
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or run water off the water fed pole for 2 or 3 mins with the camera watching to see if it drains away.

As for conny roofs we have a small scaffold tower that gives enough height and a stable platform to work from but many can easily be down from the ground

Darran

Like the squash ball tip never thought of that :)

wfp master

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2013, 10:19:49 am »
A w/c without a ladder is not a w/c.  ;D

jimiwindows

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2013, 10:45:15 am »
                          +1

Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2013, 10:46:50 am »
This ladder no  ladder lark is so over done .Move on. Its your life,  who will care only you. So decide for yourself.

Dave Willis

Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2013, 11:09:35 am »
Interesting - do you practice much to throw a squashball up and down the S bend or do you climb up a ladder?

I also use a guttervac and there is no way they can clear every S bend. I had one last week that I couldn't clear by hand without chopping the mud apart it was solid like stone. The nozzle simply can't go around the bends and will only reach the first bend.

Dave Willis

Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2013, 11:16:21 am »
The point is I use ladders more and more lately. I just wonder how you guys who don't use them at all cope? Do you simply turn every tricky job away? I never clean conny roofs without one.

wfp master

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2013, 11:22:40 am »
Half them on here would not be in this game if they had to climb a ladder & clean windows & have not a clue how to use a blade & applicator.

wfp master

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2013, 11:30:11 am »
The point is I use ladders more and more lately. I just wonder how you guys who don't use them at all cope? Do you simply turn every tricky job away? I never clean conny roofs without one.
aye anything over 3 feet high & they get vertigo thats why they dont have ladders.if there was no wfp they'd be in another job.

wfp master

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2013, 11:48:05 am »
I'am a window cleaner but dont have ladders & I cant clean your inside windows because I dont know how to use a blade & applicator. ::)roll .

wfp master

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2013, 11:59:36 am »
Chancers I tell you chancers. >:(

Perfect Windows

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Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2013, 12:22:00 pm »

if there was no wfp they'd be in another job.


Yes, and if my Auntie had balls she'd be my Uncle.  But she doesn't so it's a pointless argument.  WFP exists.  Get over it.  Look on us with as much inverted snobbery as you like and we'll just keep smiling and earning our money with both feet on the ground.

Vin

home6442

Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2013, 12:50:59 pm »
The person who cant use a blade and applicator doesn't exist
a monkey could do it.
Guys its window cleaning not rocket science.

formb

Re: Guys who don't use ladders
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2013, 01:01:37 pm »
You can earn a living at window cleaning without climbing a ladder. I climbed ladders for years, I can work a squeegee as good as anyone (except perhaps Turbo himself).

Why would I bother carrying a ladder about nowadays? I don't need the hassle. All that'll happen is some one will ask you to climb it for not nearly enough money.

Customer:
'Oh could you clean out my gutters for me?'

Me:
'No. I can't.'