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Neil Jones

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Rotary
« on: June 02, 2013, 06:41:49 pm »
Just want some opinions on rotary machines that I can add weight to for grinding and polishing? The only one I know of is the Wirbel. I currently have two victors and a truvox but they are all light weight.

What does everyone use, and has anyone got any for sale?

SteveAllan

Re: Rotary
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2013, 07:15:45 pm »
What's your budget Neil, I could have a Rocky for sale soon. Good machines as are the Wirbels.

Neil Jones

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2013, 08:07:27 pm »
I think the rocky maybe out of my price range at the minute. Email me please Steve info@absolutecleaner.co.uk


terrazzoman

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2013, 08:53:09 pm »
talk to kevin or tony martin...............the klidex range !!!

Kev Martin

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2013, 09:32:01 pm »
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Kev Martin

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2013, 09:34:22 pm »
Just want some opinions on rotary machines that I can add weight to for grinding and polishing? The only one I know of is the Wirbel. I currently have two victors and a truvox but they are all light weight.

What does everyone use, and has anyone got any for sale?

The Wirbel costs more than the Rocky

Keg Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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Kev Martin

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 09:44:49 pm »
It is important to remember that in order to grind a floor successfully you need metal sintered diamonds and ultimately speed so this means at least 1000 rpm so this rules most standard mono rotary machines out.

If however you or anyone else insists on believing that a Mono Rotary is sufficient to grind and you insist on adding weight to try and compensate for speed then you need to realise that you are going to require torque as well so as well as the rpm of the machine the size and power of the motor needs to be taken into account.

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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Neil Jones

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2013, 10:06:43 pm »
I have no idea on the cost of a wirbel, tbh i'm looking for second hand. Going to have a read through info on these machines now. Thanks for the replies.
Kev that ceramic floor came up like a good n last week.

Floor_Tony

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 07:40:54 am »
You can actually add 2 x 5kg weights to the underneath of the Klindex Rocky which takes its weight to a total of 57Kg
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Kev Martin

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2013, 11:21:49 am »
See our special offer on the Klindex Rocky in the for sale items on this Forum:

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=171538.0

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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Neil Jones

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2013, 09:58:42 pm »
Too much for me a the min Kev. Maybe in the future.

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2013, 07:24:33 am »
I can supply weight kits for truvox orbis 200.

It won't bring it into same league as rocky and Wirbel but will beef up performance.

What tasks are you looking to do with your rotary?

We run wirbels victor Trojans and truvox orbis machines.

Our preference is the Wirbel for restoration work and the orbis for cleaning maintenance and light stripping of resilients. The victor Trojan we use outdoors.

Kev Martin

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2013, 07:55:39 am »
Too much for me a the min Kev. Maybe in the future.

Neil

Totally understand!  The offer was a general one not just to get you to buy one.  Let me know your budget and I will see what is around.  All I would say is don't expect too much for not a lot of money.

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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Jamie Pearson

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2013, 08:04:10 am »
I can supply weight kits for truvox orbis 200

Just checked pricing for these.  They are £59.42 + VAT each. (2 req)

Neil Jones

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2013, 12:44:02 pm »
I want a 17 inch one. I've been looking at the Trojan. I've already got a victor standard speed 11'' and 15'' and a truvox 13'' (I think, I've never measured it and don't know the model), it's faster than the rest though, around 240rpm I think. Maybe to small Jamie to justify purchasing weights for it.
I need something for cleaning and polishing hard floors, something I can add weight to if need be.
My first choice probably would be the Rocky, then Wirbel, then Victor.
I'm looking for a deal because I've spent way way to much recently and I'm looking at getting a second van next month. Ill probably deal with what I have now and save, the victor did a decent job the other night but its been hammered and is too light.

Kev Martin

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2013, 01:19:21 pm »
I want a 17 inch one. I've been looking at the Trojan. I've already got a victor standard speed 11'' and 15'' and a truvox 13'' (I think, I've never measured it and don't know the model), it's faster than the rest though, around 240rpm I think. Maybe to small Jamie to justify purchasing weights for it.
I need something for cleaning and polishing hard floors, something I can add weight to if need be.
My first choice probably would be the Rocky, then Wirbel, then Victor.
I'm looking for a deal because I've spent way way to much recently and I'm looking at getting a second van next month. Ill probably deal with what I have now and save, the victor did a decent job the other night but its been hammered and is too light.

Neil

Why not trade one of the old machines in and split the payment into 2 halves if it helps?  Ring me on 0121 705 5333 if you want to discuss or e mail me at
tilinglogistics@hotmail.com

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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Kev Martin

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2013, 01:28:28 pm »
Another very important point as far as I am concerned is, on any Mono Rotary Machine the Motor needs to be centrally mounted and not offset....!

The two reasons for this are that:

1.   The machine is well balanced and therefore polishes evenly
2.   It is very difficult with an offset motor to work in Utilities and under kitchen units where the plinths are or even under radiators when you can only get the machine in one way!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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Jamie Pearson

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2013, 08:19:13 pm »
sounds like your truvox is a trophy compact 300 or an orbis compact so not suitable really.

We use a trophy compact for staircases.

Neil Jones

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Re: Rotary
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2013, 08:45:36 pm »
Interesting points them Kev, never really thought of that. Let me work out how much I realistically have and i'll call or email. Jamie I think it is the trophy, I use it every now and again, i've got the yellow brush on it.