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Barryy

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Egg removal on windows and frames
« on: May 28, 2013, 08:23:06 pm »
Hi all,
Any advise on removing dried on egg from windows and frames? I have 9 houses that are pretty badly hit. It would take forever with a scraper, just wondering if something like UBIK 2000 would dissolve it, and if so what concentration should I use?
Thanks.

dazmond

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 09:14:10 pm »
scraper im afraid barry on glass.make sure the glass is really wet and you have a fresh sharp blade.window cleaners nightmare is dried on egg!!! :( :(

as for frames you could try virosol/cream cleaner and a scourer.good luck!as your gonna need it!!!
price higher/work harder!

PoleKing

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 09:17:49 pm »
Have you tried TFR Barry?
I love it!

If you use a chemical of any sort-can you post your results please?
Sure a lot of lads would find it interesting.
www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 09:31:56 pm »
yeah nightmare is fried on egg! let us al know how you get on! good luck!

Liam1990

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2013, 09:35:45 pm »
Try abit of white spirit on a cloth for the egg on the glass it works well on sticky stuff paint ect, but be careful on the plastic frames with it maybe just try a small tester on the plastic frames.

Avo

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2013, 09:43:50 pm »
Hot soapy water and 4" scraper.. God I hate Halloween  :)

JamesAJF

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2013, 10:50:32 pm »
yep nightmare the windows is the easy bit it getting it of the frames and out of corners that's the hard bit :-[
bish bash bosh

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 11:39:34 pm »
I tell you what! What a load of old cods wallop!
Why give out wrong advice?
Egg is as easy as a splash and dash maintenance clean, IF (a big IF) you carry in your van/use the right cleaning agent.
DO NOT LISTEN to every poster on here!
If you are interested in the correct answer let me know but dont listen too the cowboys (not all) on here!
Cleaning EGG is easy!
Clue too my answer is PROTEIN!  
 ;)

Barryy

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 11:57:35 pm »
I tell you what! What a load of old cods wallop!
Why give out wrong advice?
Egg is as easy as a splash and dash maintenance clean, IF (a big IF) you carry in your van/use the right cleaning agent.
DO NOT LISTEN to every poster on here!
If you are interested in the correct answer let me know but dont listen too the cowboys (not all) on here!
Cleaning EGG is easy!
Clue too my answer is PROTIEN! 
 ;)

I'm definitely interested in your answer. Did a search on egg removal and the general consensus seems to be that the only real solution is to use a scraper, which wouldn't be a realistic option for me. If you know of an easier method, please let me know, thanks.

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2013, 12:24:47 am »
Glad to be of help.
I had a conservatory roof with approx 1 dozen DRIED SUN BAKED eggs on it.

http://www.greenham.com/c/pl/127142/Brillo-Cleaner-and-Degreaser

You wont be disappointed. 9 houses will more than cover the cost.

rosskesava

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2013, 12:38:08 am »
The hardener in Araldite is made from egg white because it's a protein that bonds very strongly which is why it's so hard to remove when dry.

A degreaser is meant for a different type of protein.

With egg removal, basically it comes down to using water and soaking it. Water emulsifies egg as would almost any liquid including a degreaser.

With egg, the warmer or hotter the water (or hard surface cleaner, etc ) the quicker it emulsifies and comes off.
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2013, 12:45:13 am »
We (a family with a contract/industrial cleaning history of 30 years) have used this degreaser for a number of years and I have found it VERY VERY effective for the removal of dried on EGG.
Have you tried this product? please do not comment on its affectivness until you have please.

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2013, 12:49:50 am »
Use the same mess-clearing materials and methods food manufacturers and egg producers do. At least, that's the advice of Pat Curtis, a professor at Auburn University and director of the National Egg Processing Center, an alliance of universities that studies and promotes egg quality and safety. "Removing egg," Curtis says, "is a problem that we deal with in the industry every day."

"If there's one thing I can't stress enough," she adds, "it's to use water that's warm, not hot. Eggs are protein-based, and using hot water will cook the egg onto the surface, causing it to adhere much more closely." Warm water right out of the faucet is more than warm enough to do the job, Curtis says.

And there are still other tricks of the egg-removal trade. "First, remove the egg as quickly as possible," advises Bob Reynolds, a chemist at Zep, Inc., a manufacturer of detergents and cleaners. Given its high moisture content, an egg is most vulnerable to cleaning while it's still wet. After its moisture evaporates, it becomes physically tougher and is converted into a simple protein glue.

So get out the hose and gently wash the egg off the house. To do that, first wet the siding below the egged area, making it less absorptive. Then, using gentle water pressure, spray the siding above the egg to form a sheet of water that will flush it off the siding. If you can get above it with a ladder, that's even better. Whatever you do, don't simply turn the nozzle on the egg and blast it, splattering the mess all over the siding and surrounding surfaces.

Next, attack its chemical structure. "The egg's fats and proteins, those are the key things that you have to go after with a good high-alkaline detergent," Reynolds says. These cleaners are best at removing organic materials (food, fat, blood, grass). They're not to be confused with acidic cleaners such as vinegar or citrus extracts, which are better at removing inorganic materials, such as clay and rust. Acidic cleaners will cause the egg to coagulate, making it more difficult to remove.



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rosskesava

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2013, 01:23:19 am »
We (a family with a contract/industrial cleaning history of 30 years) have used this degreaser for a number of years and I have found it VERY VERY effective for the removal of dried on EGG.
Have you tried this product? please do not comment on its affectivness until you have please.

After the baking sun has baked the egg on the surface, warm or hot water will only bake it on the surface more?

So for 30 years your family business has been removing egg from window frames and conservatories after it has dried on to the surface?

I'd be very surprised if any commercial contract/industrial cleaning business has extensive experience of that type of work. Most window cleaners only come across that problem from time to time yet your family business has come across it a lot in the world of commercial and industrial contracts.

Dried on egg in a cafe or restaurant kitchen is one thing, egg dried on the outside on a window frame or conservatory roof is another.

And no, I havn't used that particular product but I have tried degreasers to remove egg and it doesn't make much difference really what is used, it's still a bitch to get off.

Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

Barryy

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2013, 01:24:46 am »
Glad to be of help.
I had a conservatory roof with approx 1 dozen DRIED SUN BAKED eggs on it.

http://www.greenham.com/c/pl/127142/Brillo-Cleaner-and-Degreaser

You wont be disappointed. 9 houses will more than cover the cost.

Thanks a million kentkleen, i'll certainly get some of that. What dilution rate do you advise? Can it be sprayed through a knapsack type sprayer?

rosskesava

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2013, 01:29:18 am »
Glad to be of help.
I had a conservatory roof with approx 1 dozen DRIED SUN BAKED eggs on it.

http://www.greenham.com/c/pl/127142/Brillo-Cleaner-and-Degreaser

You wont be disappointed. 9 houses will more than cover the cost.

Nice round figure that, one dozen. Coincidence? And how did you know it was a dozen? Were they numbered? Sorry mate, I don't believe you.

Most kids who chuck eggs wouldn't chuck 'a dozen'. They chuck one or a few maybe and then run.

As for some supposed expert in some odd Egg Processing Centre that no one's ever heard of who is stating the bleeding obvious..... as some type of authority? I may be getting older but I'm not yet senile.
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

Barryy

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2013, 01:55:55 am »
Glad to be of help.
I had a conservatory roof with approx 1 dozen DRIED SUN BAKED eggs on it.

http://www.greenham.com/c/pl/127142/Brillo-Cleaner-and-Degreaser

You wont be disappointed. 9 houses will more than cover the cost.

Nice round figure that, one dozen. Coincidence? And how did you know it was a dozen? Were they numbered? Sorry mate, I don't believe you.

Most kids who chuck eggs wouldn't chuck 'a dozen'. They chuck one or a few maybe and then run.

As for some supposed expert in some odd Egg Processing Centre that no one's ever heard of who is stating the bleeding obvious..... as some type of authority? I may be getting older but I'm not yet senile.

I think it's worth a try rosskesava, you never know, if it does work it could save a lot of people on this forum a lot of hard work from time to time. I'll report back when I try it, and then we can judge whether kentkleen know his stuff.

rosskesava

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2013, 01:58:56 am »
I think it's worth a try rosskesava, you never know, if it does work it could save a lot of people on this forum a lot of hard work from time to time. I'll report back when I try it, and then we can judge whether kentkleen know his stuff.

Yeah, Barryy, I agree, give it a try.

What I will add is that with all the experience on this forum and the subject of removing egg having come up from time to time......

If I'm wrong, I'll happily say so and what's more, I'll also happily buy some of that stuff and leave some in the van for when needed.

Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

robertphil

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2013, 03:48:34 am »
post up a vid of you and the knapsack sprayer barryy

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Egg removal
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2013, 08:25:34 am »
I never stated that we where dealing with 'EGG' on a regular basis.
We dealt with animal fats, proteins and in fact human fats on a daily basis.
Since window cleaning I have only really come across 1 bad incident.
Yes around a dozen eggs where involved. A large conservatory roof was literally covered in them. The next door neighbours had had a party and decided too do a little egg throwing. The neigbours do not get on well with my customer.
I called next day, mid afternoon. I did not have my hot system fitted at this point so was trying cold wfp and a scraper. (glass roof) It was a nightmare!!!!
After 30 mins of cleaning just 1 panel a phone call was made too my father and thats where the Brillo Body fat de greaser was suggested.
I applied it on a 1 (parts degreaser) to 10 (Parts water) concentration.
Left a little while (not long enough to 'fry' in the baking sun) Then washed the 'EGG' away.
I would liken it to washing bird muck away. Bit of a scrub did the job.

Please remember to buy the Animal/human fat and protein degreaser. Alkaline NOT Acid cleaner.

Also the eggs where free range, not from caged birds, dont know if that will make a differance? ;D

Good luck with your 9 houses. :o