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Poll

What do you use to get you through the winter

propex overnight heater
2.8%
1 (2.8%)
gas water heater
11.1%
4 (11.1%)
both over night & water heater
2.8%
1 (2.8%)
none of above
83.3%
30 (83.3%)

Total Members Voted: 29

PAUL ERITH

Winter preparations
« on: May 26, 2013, 06:39:10 pm »
Want to be prepared for winter and like the idea of a overnight gas propex heater to keep the van & hoses toasty

I'm not keen on the gas water heater due to needing to cut a hole in the roof of my van for the used gases vent.

What does every one else use.

Thanks Paul

AuRavelling79

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Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2013, 06:40:51 pm »
immersion heater
It's a game of three halves!

Fin Clearview

  • Posts: 929
Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2013, 06:47:57 pm »
A thread about Winter, That's Summer officially over then! :)

Ste b

  • Posts: 362
Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2013, 06:57:50 pm »
A thread about Winter, That's Summer officially over then! :)


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PAUL ERITH

Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 08:15:47 pm »
Just planning ahead thats all  ;) ;)

Plus i would rather be fitting the stuff in the warm weather before winter gets here.

Paul

Scrimble

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Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 09:05:50 pm »
no big deal with cutting a hole in the roof for a flue, gas is the best way to go, you can get the flow controllers with the thermostat which recircuates hot water around your system,

along with a oil filled rad you wont have any prooblems, best and arguably the cheapest

EandM

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Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2013, 09:48:17 pm »
Stop It !

CleanClear

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Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 09:51:43 pm »
Want to be prepared for winter and like the idea of a overnight gas propex heater to keep the van & hoses toasty

I'm not keen on the gas water heater due to needing to cut a hole in the roof of my van for the used gases vent.

What does every one else use.

Thanks Paul

If you think you need to cut a hole in the roof of the van for used gases to vent from a gas water heater, say what do you think happens to the used gases from the propex heater ? Is it just some gases need a vent and others are ok?
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CleanClear

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Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 09:52:21 pm »
Stop It !
The way this years going we'll all be heating up about August !!  ;D
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robert mitchell

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Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 07:07:00 am »
Want to be prepared for winter and like the idea of a overnight gas propex heater to keep the van & hoses toasty

I'm not keen on the gas water heater due to needing to cut a hole in the roof of my van for the used gases vent.

What does every one else use.

Thanks Paul

If you think you need to cut a hole in the roof of the van for used gases to vent from a gas water heater, say what do you think
happens to the used gases from the propex heater ? Is it just some gases need a vent and others are ok?



The propex vents through the floor of the vehicle , same as an eberspacher /webasto  diesel heater .
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PAUL ERITH

Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 08:53:21 am »
Want to be prepared for winter and like the idea of a overnight gas propex heater to keep the van & hoses toasty

I'm not keen on the gas water heater due to needing to cut a hole in the roof of my van for the used gases vent.

What does every one else use.

Thanks Paul

If you think you need to cut a hole in the roof of the van for used gases to vent from a gas water heater, say what do you think happens to the used gases from the propex heater ? Is it just some gases need a vent and others are ok?

The exhaust on the propex is only about 1 or 2 inches wide and can be vented out the side by the rear bumper.

They even sell the WEBASTO AIR 12V DIESEL NIGHT HEATER KITS on ebay for a bit more than the gas propex

The reason i don't want to cut a hole in the roof is i need to get a bigger two man van later next year and i would imagine cutting a hole in the roof will kill the resale value  :-\ :-\

Paul

dotty

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Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2013, 09:29:13 am »
only may winter is a long way off yet you should be asking what colour shorts should i wear
p doherty

Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2013, 10:07:22 am »
Mount the gas at the sliding door.

Richard Shepherd

  • Posts: 311
Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2013, 10:11:24 am »
The reason i don't want to cut a hole in the roof is i need to get a bigger two man van later next year and i would imagine cutting a hole in the roof will kill the resale value  :-\ :-\

Paul
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Just stick a rotating roof vent on it..

EandM

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Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2013, 11:57:15 am »
Stop It !
The way this years going we'll all be heating up about August !!  ;D

You make a good point ! It did indeed do just that in 2003 with 100f in August - maybe it runs in ten year cycles..  ;)

steven 1

Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2013, 12:13:05 pm »
Blow heater, has this circulates around the van

Spruce

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Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2013, 12:48:11 pm »
If you can't get electric to the van at night to run a frost heater, then the propex gas heater is the way to go.

The diesel air heaters draw a high battery amperage to get fired up so drain the battery. On a cold night they will stop and start many times which is the problem.  A propex heater just takes minimal current to ignite the flame and then use a small current to run the propex fan, as will the diesel heaters.

Diesel is convenient, but also expensive. A diesel heater will draw about a third of a litre of diesel an hour, so if it runs for 9 hours a night, then expect that to cost around £5 which may extend to the day as well.

If you invest a little more money, you can buy a refillable gas bottle. This has two advantages - the gas from a fuel station is cheaper, and if you get the transparent type, you can see how much gas you have left in the cylinder. (I would check that your chosen service station does allow you to refill these bottles. They were quite strict about this at one time do to people trying to fill ordinary gas bottles which is very dangerous.)

The downside is that you need to check the implications of gas with your insurer and it becomes a little more difficult if you haven't an LPG gas supplier near you.

I would also drill a vent hole in the floor of the van as a safety procaution. Gas is heavier than air so if there is a gas leak, this is a good way to let it escape.

There are a number of users on here who have successfully used these heaters in winter - Roy Harding is one.

A mate of mine is unable to heat his van at night, so drains his pump and hoses down every night in the winter. He takes his hose reel and pole inside to stop them freezing. He has always been able to work in winter when conditions allow.
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Tom White

Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2013, 01:19:44 pm »
immersion heater

Me too; with a timer.  Works a treat.

SPE

Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2013, 07:30:15 pm »
I put none of the above
Because I am street parked I cannot run electricity out to the van for a heater or immersion.
It is worth this time of year though planning for colder shorter days.
I have just finished re routing hoses and wiring in my van so all is quick release and the pump is now in a removable box.
All done within a day and now I am sorted for winter, if it looks like things will freeze I can remove them in a couple of mins and take indoors overnight.
(no ro in the van though, just tank, pump, controller and reel)

PAUL ERITH

Re: Winter preparations
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2013, 07:58:11 pm »
If you can't get electric to the van at night to run a frost heater, then the propex gas heater is the way to go.

The diesel air heaters draw a high battery amperage to get fired up so drain the battery. On a cold night they will stop and start many times which is the problem.  A propex heater just takes minimal current to ignite the flame and then use a small current to run the propex fan, as will the diesel heaters.

Diesel is convenient, but also expensive. A diesel heater will draw about a third of a litre of diesel an hour, so if it runs for 9 hours a night, then expect that to cost around £5 which may extend to the day as well.

If you invest a little more money, you can buy a refillable gas bottle. This has two advantages - the gas from a fuel station is cheaper, and if you get the transparent type, you can see how much gas you have left in the cylinder. (I would check that your chosen service station does allow you to refill these bottles. They were quite strict about this at one time do to people trying to fill ordinary gas bottles which is very dangerous.)

The downside is that you need to check the implications of gas with your insurer and it becomes a little more difficult if you haven't an LPG gas supplier near you.

I would also drill a vent hole in the floor of the van as a safety procaution. Gas is heavier than air so if there is a gas leak, this is a good way to let it escape.

There are a number of users on here who have successfully used these heaters in winter - Roy Harding is one.

A mate of mine is unable to heat his van at night, so drains his pump and hoses down every night in the winter. He takes his hose reel and pole inside to stop them freezing. He has always been able to work in winter when conditions allow.

Thank you for the informative post propex gas is the way to go then  ;D ;D

Thanks Paul