[Klean07]

My present system was fitted d I y so just wondered how many go down this way or pay the extra to have one factory fitted?

[home6442]

I found that there wasn't a big saving to be made doing a diy system unless buying
inferior equipment.
Also at the time I knew very little about wfp setups so would have wasted money
on a system that wouldn't have suited my needs.
All depends on the mark up the professional fitter has on labour.
The guy who done mine was very reasonable and give me training on how to use
and maintain it.

[richard jagger]

If  you have the skills  and can make it look and work good, do it your self. It will help you when went maintaining the system.

[keyser soze]

i did mine myself .hot 2 man system  very easy tbh and saved a fortune . everyone to their own i guess. i do like the look of the ionics / grippamax systems though. but at the end of the day its about profit margins in my eyes.. 

[DG Cleaning]

My diy system cost about £500
Van mount, 400L tank, 100m microbore, Gardiners reel.
Twin 11L di's, second hand Shurflo pump.
Saved a lot of money this way and I've been using it since last August with no issues

[dd]

I found that there wasn't a big saving to be made doing a diy system unless buying
inferior equipment.
Also at the time I knew very little about wfp setups so would have wasted money
on a system that wouldn't have suited my needs.
All depends on the mark up the professional fitter has on labour.
The guy who done mine was very reasonable and give me training on how to use
and maintain it.

Who fitted it?

[home6442]

I found that there wasn't a big saving to be made doing a diy system unless buying
inferior equipment.
Also at the time I knew very little about wfp setups so would have wasted money
on a system that wouldn't have suited my needs.
All depends on the mark up the professional fitter has on labour.
The guy who done mine was very reasonable and give me training on how to use
and maintain it.

Who fitted it?

Sureclean in Omagh.
www.surecleansystems.com

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

Ask your insurance if you're covered in the event of an accident should you go down the DIY route.

[keyser soze]

sorry i thought vans was designed to transport things . i cant believe if i have an accident my ins may not to pay out because my van had a load in it...

[easy clean]

It really makes me laugh when these topics arise, diy or fitted? Crash tested? Frames or straps? The reason it is all hyped up is so these companies are in business! How many of you who drive cars have stuff in the back and on the back shelf which is not secured? All these things in an accident can kill you but no one even thinks twice about it!
I'm not saying just chuck a tank in the back fill it up and away you go, but any one with some common sense does not need to be spending thousands on a fitted system. Ask yourself this, you've spent all your money on a all singing and dancing system and have no money to replace your wrotten rusty van, that has hardly any of the floor left under your ply lining, what good is that when you have this accident and it rips it straight out the floor and chassis?

It ain't always about fitted systems, be sensible do it yourself and save money!

[scottt24]

sorry i thought vans was designed to transport things . i cant believe if i have an accident my ins may not to pay out because my van had a load in it...

Fitting a tank in your van is classed as a modification and needs to be put through your insurance

[easy clean]

Surely if a tank is fitted using ratchet straps and not bolted through the floor then it can't be classed as a permanent fixing??

[scottt24]

Surely if a tank is fitted using ratchet straps and not bolted through the floor then it can't be classed as a permanent fixing??

My tank is fitted in a frame but I had a 1 off sub base designed and fitted so I can slide the tank out the side door on the odd occasion when I need the whole back of the van.
I spoke with my insurance ( a plan ) and even though the tank can still be removed it is still classed as a modification

[easy clean]

How does this affect all the other trades with equipment that they carry?

So most vans on the road are driving around with incorrect insurance?

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

sorry i thought vans was designed to transport things . i cant believe if i have an accident my ins may not to pay out because my van had a load in it...

You'll need to speak to them, fitting a tank is a modification. If the tank isnt securely fitted youre travelling with an unsafe load, thats illegal.

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

Surely if a tank is fitted using ratchet straps and not bolted through the floor then it can't be classed as a permanent fixing??

No, it wouldn't, it would be classified as 'unsafe load'.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/workplacetransport/loadsafety/planning-your-load.htm

[scottt24]

How does this affect all the other trades with equipment that they carry?

So most vans on the road are driving around with incorrect insurance?

That's a bit of a broad statement, you need to speak with your insurance to see how they differentiate between cargo and a modification

[easy clean]

This is an argument that can go on and on, just like trad v wfp. You can bet your life that anybody who has paid extra to have a fitted system other diy will always say its illegal or unsafe or whatever, just like a trad window cleaner will always say wfp is crap! At the end of the day is everything in the van bolted to the floor cos anything is capable of injuring you? Then you have to ask yourself how good is that floor/chassis you've bolted it to?

There is nothing wrong with using ratchet straps to secure a load, next time you see a lorry driving down the road carrying a load, have a little look what is holding it down? Think you'll find it straps and not bolted through the trailer.

[easy clean]

Matt, follow the link that you posted and see 'how to secure loads safely' it does refer to ratchet straps, so how would this deemed as being illegal?

[scottt24]

This is an argument that can go on and on, just like trad v wfp. You can bet your life that anybody who has paid extra to have a fitted system other diy will always say its illegal or unsafe or whatever, just like a trad window cleaner will always say wfp is crap! At the end of the day is everything in the van bolted to the floor cos anything is capable of injuring you? Then you have to ask yourself how good is that floor/chassis you've bolted it to?

There is nothing wrong with using ratchet straps to secure a load, next time you see a lorry driving down the road carrying a load, have a little look what is holding it down? Think you'll find it straps and not bolted through the trailer.

I haven't commented on the legality of straps as I don't know what the law says.
I personally paid the extra because it was a one off frame and rightly or wrongly it makes me feel safer than I would have if I'd used straps.
Knowing what I do now I would always go down the DIY route in future but I would always check with my insurance first
It really doesn't bother me if someone uses a frame, straps or bubble gum and blu tack, I feel safe when I'm driving and that is what matters to me most