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RAMS this one....
« on: May 22, 2013, 10:43:47 pm »
Local business. How should this be done safely?
4 foot drop to the river.





AuRavelling79

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 10:47:10 pm »
Boat?
It's a game of three halves!

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 10:49:03 pm »
 "operatives will be wearing snorkel & shark repellent at all times"
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

David Salkeld

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 11:00:06 pm »
Easy....
You get the business to install a railed walkway all along so operatives can gain safe access...
simples  ;)
Good Honest Service

CleanClear

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 11:07:08 pm »
Local business. How should this be done safely?
4 foot drop to the river.






Thats an easy one. I'd used the approach adopted by all the Rail companies when dealing with the public near the edges of their station platforms. And if yellow lines painted along the edge is good enough for them...............
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Dani J

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 11:08:22 pm »
Local business. How should this be done safely?
4 foot drop to the river.







Boat is a good idea  ;D

wpclean

Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 11:14:28 pm »
An inflatable A ladder !

R.C Property

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 11:23:49 pm »
very easy to do that! you use the same equipment that you would if it was a side of a building!

full body harness and a fall arrest system! simples!

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 11:27:50 pm »
very easy to do that! you use the same equipment that you would if it was a side of a building!

full body harness and a fall arrest system! simples!

 I was about to say, Cant you use absailing equipment. although ive no experience of this type of work i must add!!!

R.C Property

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 11:28:14 pm »
this building has the same sort of fall arrest system in palce,
but when i checked over the gear that they have for you to use, they have the wrong lanyard that will still let you hit the lower roof before it kicks in!


R.C Property

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 11:29:59 pm »
very easy to do that! you use the same equipment that you would if it was a side of a building!

full body harness and a fall arrest system! simples!

 I was about to say, Cant you use absailing equipment. although ive no experience of this type of work i must add!!!

could, but cant move along that well, with the fall arrest system there will be a wire along the whole length of the building that a lanyard will be attached to that will side along as you move from window to window,

JamesAJF

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 11:43:19 pm »
just watch what your doing its no diff from going up a ladder there is danger in every job and if your careful u will be fine ;)
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Spruce

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2013, 05:51:20 am »
very easy to do that! you use the same equipment that you would if it was a side of a building!

full body harness and a fall arrest system! simples!

 I was about to say, Cant you use absailing equipment. although ive no experience of this type of work i must add!!!

could, but cant move along that well, with the fall arrest system there will be a wire along the whole length of the building that a lanyard will be attached to that will side along as you move from window to window,


Which is the only way to do it. But will the initial cost of installing this and the annual inspection justify the cost of cleaning? (According to the local school who were considering installing this system to allow access to clean solar panels safely, the annual inspection and certification costs £450.00.)
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R.C Property

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2013, 07:28:35 am »
very easy to do that! you use the same equipment that you would if it was a side of a building!

full body harness and a fall arrest system! simples!

 I was about to say, Cant you use absailing equipment. although ive no experience of this type of work i must add!!!

could, but cant move along that well, with the fall arrest system there will be a wire along the whole length of the building that a lanyard will be attached to that will side along as you move from window to window,


Which is the only way to do it. But will the initial cost of installing this and the annual inspection justify the cost of cleaning? (According to the local school who were considering installing this system to allow access to clean solar panels safely, the annual inspection and certification costs £450.00.)

Know what you're saying,
What would a law suit cost them if something happened?
A pub had to pay out nearly £300k for a death for a fall off the ladder.

The other way to look at it That 450 a year only works out at £37.50 a month, or roughly £9 a week, or even £1.23 a day. what cost do you put on someones life?

As for cleaning solar panels on the roof there are other fall arrest equipment that you can use that doesn't need all that, there are portable systems that can be taken up there for that sort of thing.

R.C Property

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2013, 07:31:54 am »
Just thought, if they fitted railings down there that would do the job too.

David Salkeld

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2013, 03:36:47 pm »
Just thought, if they fitted railings down there that would do the job too.

Now son......you obviously didn't see what yer old gaffer has already said  ;)
Good Honest Service

George Gardner

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2013, 03:54:07 pm »
THATS A TUFFY!!

Not sure what to say.............hang on.................there could be an app for that!!  8)

R.C Property

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2013, 03:56:07 pm »
Just thought, if they fitted railings down there that would do the job too.

Now son......you obviously didn't see what yer old gaffer has already said  ;)

no didnt see that what you put! lol

Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2013, 07:28:56 am »
If its only the windows to clean, would one man cleaning them and another just sorting out hoses and providing general supervision and guidance not suffice? Could they be harnessed together so that even if one fell in, the other would likely not go at exactly the same time?

Just spitballing.... ::)roll

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: RAMS this one....
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2013, 07:47:23 am »
If its only the windows to clean, would one man cleaning them and another just sorting out hoses and providing general supervision and guidance not suffice? Could they be harnessed together so that even if one fell in, the other would likely not go at exactly the same time?

Just spitballing.... ::)roll

THhats what i was thinking  :)
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.