[Peter Fogwill]

The best way to see how something works is to have and to use.  The mechanism is inside that does the stopping and starting of the water, and that won't be shown on any video.  Even in a video of someone using it on a window doesn't really show you anything.
Steven tried to explain that earlier.

Nathanael I don't know what your problem is with me but you obviously have one, and this post is exactly what I have come to expect from you.  I won't even bother commenting on how your above theories would be overcome.  You won't have the problems you mentioned anyway, as you will have no intensions of buying one in the first place.

[[GQC] Tim]

Just to clarify, can you not show how it works, or do you not want to show how it works? The latter case would mean that you haven't patented it, or are unable to patent it, in which case, it seems rather silly to showcase it already?

If you are unable to show how it works, I suggest sending one over to Alex Gardiner. He seems to know how to make a video showing what exactly a product does and is able to show in detail how it works.

[dd]

The video did not really show how it would be used e.g. to control water flow cleaning upstairs windows. I still do not know if you twist the pole, twist an attachment to the pole, exactly where and how the device is fitted to the pole and how the device actually works.

Video a complete waste of time IMO. Sorry.

[Nathanael Jones]

The best way to see how something works is to have and to use.  The mechanism is inside that does the stopping and starting of the water, and that won't be shown on any video.  Even in a video of someone using it on a window doesn't really show you anything.
Steven tried to explain that earlier.

Nathanael I don't know what your problem is with me but you obviously have one, and this post is exactly what I have come to expect from you.  I won't even bother commenting on how your above theories would be overcome.  You won't have the problems you mentioned anyway, as you will have no intensions of buying one in the first place.

Peter - I rarely mention you or your products, I don't know why you think i have a problem with you. I have actually bought from you in the past.

I simply pointed out what appears to be a basic issue that would stop me (and I assume many others) from using a device that operates by turning the pole. If I'm incorrect in I disagreeumption of how it works, please correct me - but that is how it appears in the video.

[Peter Fogwill]

I know you have bought from me before Nathanel, but I have noticed in the last few exchanges, and not neceserly about the Aquatap you have been very negative towards me.  No way is it sour grapes on my part because of your previous comment, as I like negative comments as much as positive ones, it gives me a chance to either overcome them, or explain them away. Ok that out the way here is an answer to your criticism. 

The pole won't turn the valve off if its turned as long as the brush is not against the glass or something else. Only when the brush is held still will twisting the bottom of the pole turn the water on and off.  Even if there was a case where the water was on when you wanted it off, or vice versa, it would only then take a second to turn it back on/off.

[Peter Fogwill]

Tim,  I have no problem with showing how it works, it is patent applied for.
I just don't know how showing it on a window is going to make a difference. I did have a video and emailed it to Lee but he never received it, well hadn't the last time I spoke to him.  More videos to follow.
Alex has had a prototype of the product, probably never done a video, if he has he is welcome to show it.

[DaveG]

Peter, what I think you've got there is a fantastic idea..  Do you have an idea of price, up against the Aquadapter?

Cheers

[Peter Fogwill]

Thanks David, not finalised a price yet but looks like it could be around £30 can't see it being any dearer, but could be a bit cheaper.  How does that sound?

[rosskesava]

That does look an extremely good idea if it works as well in use as it appeared to on that all too short video clip.

[DaveG]

Thanks David, not finalised a price yet but looks like it could be around £30 can't see it being any dearer, but could be a bit cheaper.  How does that sound?

Sounds good to me Pete 

Where do I sign!

[stuart mc]

love it, looks good and not over priced

[Dave Willis]

Not being funny but why are these inventions produced? What is the advantage over a simple push fit tap?
The only reason I can see to spend extra money and add more weight would be to eliminate the loop of hose produced by working with a tap on the hip?

[Peter Fogwill]

Dave, water is precious to the WFP window cleaner and the easier it is to stop it flowing when needed the more likely he is going to use it.  Yes taps, remotes, triggers, are all being used to turn the water off and on, but they all have disadvantages over a device than can be at the top of the pole and be operated from the bottom.

Part of my Patent application has covered custom made goosenecks and angle joints with the Aquatap built in, and even a better valve for the bottom of the pole.  The goosenecks and angle joints are something for the near future, but I can't see me ever wanting a valve for the bottom of the pole.

[Peter Fogwill]

DaveG, the end of July is when they will be available, I will probably take orders about 2 weeks before. 

[DaveG]

Cheers

[Dave Willis]

Dave, water is precious to the WFP window cleaner and the easier it is to stop it flowing when needed the more likely he is going to use it.  Yes taps, remotes, triggers, are all being used to turn the water off and on, but they all have disadvantages over a device than can be at the top of the pole and be operated from the bottom.

Part of my Patent application has covered custom made goosenecks and angle joints with the Aquatap built in, and even a better valve for the bottom of the pole.  The goosenecks and angle joints are something for the near future, but I can't see me ever wanting a valve for the bottom of the pole.

Yes, I understand that but when a £9 valve does the same thing on a hip holster, what actually drives you to invent something more complex? Same with Aquadapter - why go to all that trouble to invent something that in my eyes isn't needed?
I'm not saying your tap is a bad thing I'm just interested to know why a tap is a bad thing?

[Barryy]

Mixed bag of comments on this new product. Personally, I'm impressed that Peter is attempting to solve a very real problem, and look forward to trying out the finished product. I was in the process of maybe purchasing a One-Shot remote control, but I think I'll hold off for the AquaTap. If it works well, it'll defo make life a lot easier for a lot of people. Well done Mr. Fogwill!

[DaveG]

Dave, water is precious to the WFP window cleaner and the easier it is to stop it flowing when needed the more likely he is going to use it.  Yes taps, remotes, triggers, are all being used to turn the water off and on, but they all have disadvantages over a device than can be at the top of the pole and be operated from the bottom.

Part of my Patent application has covered custom made goosenecks and angle joints with the Aquatap built in, and even a better valve for the bottom of the pole.  The goosenecks and angle joints are something for the near future, but I can't see me ever wanting a valve for the bottom of the pole.

Yes, I understand that but when a £9 valve does the same thing on a hip holster, what actually drives you to invent something more complex? Same with Aquadapter - why go to all that trouble to invent something that in my eyes isn't needed?
I'm not saying your tap is a bad thing I'm just interested to know why a tap is a bad thing?

Dave, I worked for 2 or 3 years using taps.. First I just used to have it dragging on the ground but they used to get damaged and caught on everything. Then I had a holster and got fed up with "wet leg syndrome". I then fixed it to my pole and thought I could live with the loop and it was great (turning water off between every window etc).. but that loop was soooo annoying!!

I went over to Aquadapters around 18 months ago and haven't looked back. I think Peters idea is great and will be serious competition for the Aquadapter, especially if its lighter and cheaper   

[Dave Willis]

As I thought it's the loop then?
Strangely, I don't get a wet leg ever 

[DaveG]

Yep, for me it's definitely the loop. Can't speak for others tho..

Have you tried an Aquadapter?