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Steve-Robert

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Canvassing/Doorknocking
« on: May 03, 2013, 11:32:57 am »
trying my hardest to start up a round but its slow going.
in 3 weeks I've gathered 12 (twelve) customers after knocking on what must be over a thousand doors.
is this normal ?
determined to keep at it but didn't expect it to be so hard getting people to part with about a tenner to get their windows cleaned !
anyone else just started up ?
comments and suggestions appreciated.

cheers
Steve.

EandM

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 11:56:29 am »
trying my hardest to start up a round but its slow going.
in 3 weeks I've gathered 12 (twelve) customers after knocking on what must be over a thousand doors.
is this normal ?
determined to keep at it but didn't expect it to be so hard getting people to part with about a tenner to get their windows cleaned !
anyone else just started up ?
comments and suggestions appreciated.

cheers
Steve.

You have 12 customers in 3 weeks - this is very good.
You have knocked on over 1,000 doors - this is very good.
Clearly you have determination and sticking power - you will go far !

Smudger

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2013, 01:58:26 pm »
Maybe try a slightly different area, more important than doors knocked is how many people you are actually speaking to. If you are knocking during the day likely many will be no answers, sorry if I am teaching you how to suck eggs but maybe try a few nights of 5-8.30 - you should get many more in and a much better hit rate. Weekends are also a good time to canvass we do welll then, sunday morning 10-12.30ish seems good too. Another good way is make sure you look smart, maybe wear a logo'd top, be polite, its just a numbers game.
Good Luck
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

rg1

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2013, 03:14:00 pm »
Top tip of the day!

Saving Time.

If you knock doors and the first few people say they already have a window cleaner, don't bother with the rest of the street, go somewhere else.
The pen is mightier than the sword (and a lot easier to write with!)

roundbuilder

Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2013, 03:39:46 pm »
Top tip of the day!

Saving Time.

If you knock doors and the first few people say they already have a window cleaner, don't bother with the rest of the street, go somewhere else.
Thats The worst advice, an area where noone has a windowcleaner is normally a slum, the norm is that most people dont want 1 just dont waste time knocking on clean houses, i never canvass a clean house as 99 percent of the time they do them thereselfs or have a cleaner already. Try steer away from built up estates and concentrate on main/busy roads. Knock on the dirty ones and you have a 50 percent chance of it being a simple yes or no against a 1% chance with a clean house.

Top tip is to take note of every sold board in your area and knock them when board has come down. An easy way of gaining 50 plus customers in 3 months without actualy canvassing.

rg1

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2013, 03:42:57 pm »
Why is that the worst advice then?
The pen is mightier than the sword (and a lot easier to write with!)

roundbuilder

Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2013, 03:47:58 pm »
Why is that the worst advice then?
Proof is in the pudding look at my results. Why would you waste time knocking on clean houses anyway. Thats the joy of canvassing properly, you choose what you target. I target dirty houses and stay away from anything looking spotless.

8weekly

Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2013, 03:48:39 pm »
Top tip of the day!

Saving Time.

If you knock doors and the first few people say they already have a window cleaner, don't bother with the rest of the street, go somewhere else.
Thats The worst advice, an area where noone has a windowcleaner is normally a slum, the norm is that most people dont want 1 just dont waste time knocking on clean houses, i never canvass a clean house as 99 percent of the time they do them thereselfs or have a cleaner already. Try steer away from built up estates and concentrate on main/busy roads. Knock on the dirty ones and you have a 50 percent chance of it being a simple yes or no against a 1% chance with a clean house.

Top tip is to take note of every sold board in your area and knock them when board has come down. An easy way of gaining 50 plus customers in 3 months without actualy canvassing.
Like the sold board idea, but canvassing dirty houses is a sure fire way to pick up customers that will be messers. People that want clean windows don't wit to be knocked.

roundbuilder

Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2013, 03:53:10 pm »
Top tip of the day!

Saving Time.

If you knock doors and the first few people say they already have a window cleaner, don't bother with the rest of the street, go somewhere else.
Thats The worst advice, an area where noone has a windowcleaner is normally a slum, the norm is that most people dont want 1 just dont waste time knocking on clean houses, i never canvass a clean house as 99 percent of the time they do them thereselfs or have a cleaner already. Try steer away from built up estates and concentrate on main/busy roads. Knock on the dirty ones and you have a 50 percent chance of it being a simple yes or no against a 1% chance with a clean house.

Top tip is to take note of every sold board in your area and knock them when board has come down. An easy way of gaining 50 plus customers in 3 months without actualy canvassing.
Like the sold board idea, but canvassing dirty houses is a sure fire way to pick up customers that will be messers. People that want clean windows don't wit to be knocked.

Not at all, a small percentage are messers as with any method, the only way to get good results canvassing is to soley target ones that have no cleaner. If i wasted time knocking every house on a street then id be lucky to get 2 in a night!.

wayupnorth

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2013, 03:56:05 pm »
Keep doing what you're doing. with only 12 custies you have plenty of time on your hands for canvassing and can't afford to miss any by trying to second guess peoples motivations for having clean(or not) windows.

8weekly

Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2013, 04:02:09 pm »
Top tip of the day!

Saving Time.

If you knock doors and the first few people say they already have a window cleaner, don't bother with the rest of the street, go somewhere else.
Thats The worst advice, an area where noone has a windowcleaner is normally a slum, the norm is that most people dont want 1 just dont waste time knocking on clean houses, i never canvass a clean house as 99 percent of the time they do them thereselfs or have a cleaner already. Try steer away from built up estates and concentrate on main/busy roads. Knock on the dirty ones and you have a 50 percent chance of it being a simple yes or no against a 1% chance with a clean house.

Top tip is to take note of every sold board in your area and knock them when board has come down. An easy way of gaining 50 plus customers in 3 months without actualy canvassing.
Like the sold board idea, but canvassing dirty houses is a sure fire way to pick up customers that will be messers. People that want clean windows don't wit to be knocked.

Not at all, a small percentage are messers as with any method, the only way to get good results canvassing is to soley target ones that have no cleaner. If i wasted time knocking every house on a street then id be lucky to get 2 in a night!.
From the roadside it is only possible to pick out real mingers in my experience. Often windows look ok from outside, but from inside look terrible. I can see your thinking and I have no doubt that you would get a higher return per door knocked but you would be missing an awful lot of houses with moderately dirty windows who in my experience turn out to be better customers. Canvassed jobs just aren't as good and getting a premium on a first clean is harder.

Personally, my advice to the OP would be to leaflet. I doubt he would get a much worse return rate from 1,000 leaflets and in the time he could have easily dropped 5,000... Probably many more.

DG Cleaning

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2013, 04:05:18 pm »
Top tip of the day!

Saving Time.

If you knock doors and the first few people say they already have a window cleaner, don't bother with the rest of the street, go somewhere else.
Thats The worst advice, an area where noone has a windowcleaner is normally a slum, the norm is that most people dont want 1 just dont waste time knocking on clean houses, i never canvass a clean house as 99 percent of the time they do them thereselfs or have a cleaner already. Try steer away from built up estates and concentrate on main/busy roads. Knock on the dirty ones and you have a 50 percent chance of it being a simple yes or no against a 1% chance with a clean house.

Top tip is to take note of every sold board in your area and knock them when board has come down. An easy way of gaining 50 plus customers in 3 months without actualy canvassing.
Like the sold board idea, but canvassing dirty houses is a sure fire way to pick up customers that will be messers. People that want clean windows don't wit to be knocked.

Not at all, a small percentage are messers as with any method, the only way to get good results canvassing is to soley target ones that have no cleaner. If i wasted time knocking every house on a street then id be lucky to get 2 in a night!.

Mick, how many a night do you normally get?
I may be having a full on canvassing campaign soon with 2 or 3 of us out most nights and me during the day.
I'll be aiming for around 300 new custies in the shortest possible time and could use a bit of advice ;D

Steve-Robert

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2013, 04:09:27 pm »
loads of top tips there chaps,thanks.

supernova77

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2013, 04:27:09 pm »
Quote
trying my hardest to start up a round but its slow going.
in 3 weeks I've gathered 12 (twelve) customers after knocking on what must be over a thousand doors.
is this normal ?
determined to keep at it but didn't expect it to be so hard getting people to part with about a tenner to get their windows cleaned !
anyone else just started up ?
comments and suggestions appreciated.

cheers
Steve.

I think you've done well so far.

As has been said - canvassing is a numbers game - the more houses you knock on the more customers you will get.

I remember when I started up... Sometimes I would spend 2 hours in a certain area, every house I knocked they already had a window cleaner, but then I would get 2 or 3 at the end of the road who needed a window cleaner, if I had given up on the area after 30 mins or so then I would never have got those customers! - It just takes patience and persistence is the key.

From what I've heard it sounds tough trying to start up from scratch nowadays though... Because of WFP loads of people are starting up thinking its easy money, but its not easy.

Make sure you stay focused and determined!

Andy  ;)

C o z y

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2013, 04:38:28 pm »
Steve, the way I go about it is like this. I drop leaflets saying who I am and how long I've been in business. What service I provide, (6 weekly) and that we're reliable and friendly etc. I also tell them on the flyer that we'll be calling in the near future to see if they re interested etc. About 3 or 4 days later, I then go door knocking. Works well for me. Another way is to pay some guy like Mick Kent to do it for you. From what I've seen on here, he seems to know what he's doing.  It takes bottle to do what you've done. Full respect. Just remember, some will, some won't, so what, nock on the next door.

The difference between guys with lots of work and guys who have problems getting work is who knocks more doors. You grow your business when others would give up and go home. It sounds like you're that sort of bloke. Keep going.
No still don't understand, I must be thick

rg1

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2013, 06:42:56 pm »
Why is that the worst advice then?
Proof is in the pudding look at my results. Why would you waste time knocking on clean houses anyway. Thats the joy of canvassing properly, you choose what you target. I target dirty houses and stay away from anything looking spotless.

Each to his own.

I have built up more than enough work knocking doors the way I do it.
The pen is mightier than the sword (and a lot easier to write with!)

robertphil

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2013, 07:12:38 pm »
first thing in the morning go draw out 40 quid from a cashpoint. promise yourself that you will pay yourself it AFTER you've knocked 500/400/100 doors(set a target)  . then and only then you can go pay it back in at the bank,your wages

I used to do this in my erly days as a motivation and it worked

Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2013, 07:25:25 pm »
Mick kent was given a list of custies from a retired windy.

PoleKing

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Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2013, 07:38:33 pm »
Smithie-sounded like he was but he didn't know what till he started knocking.
If he hadn't gone out knocking he wouldn't have got any.
Fortune favours the brave.

To the OP-best advice-don't get despondent, don't be too proud and keep at it bud.
Every person here with a decent round has had to work their conkers off to get it, in one way or another.

Keep at it, you never know how successful you may be

www.LanesWindowCleaning.com

It's just the internet. Try not to worry.

home6442

Re: Canvassing/Doorknocking
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2013, 08:41:44 pm »
Steve its what you do with the customers you have.
I canvassed and got 50 then the rest came to me.
Take your time at each house over clean them.
Neighbours watch and recommend.
Get your name and phone number on your van or car{ Landline works better}
Work Saturdays.
Expect to get messers and don't let them get you down.
Keep yourself and vehicle clean and tidy.
Look after you customers go the extra mile once you get a good reputation
the customers will come to you.
Be patient a good round takes time to build.