[Graeme Smith]

Yorkshire sandstone flag covered in a very shiny topical sealant

Water based alkaline stripper (chemspec) did not work - not suprised
Lithofin wax off - no result - sort of surprised thought the shine was lithofin slate seal
Aquamix SCR 30 mins dwell - no result
Nitromors - no result
white spirit - no result

Diamond hand block started to remove but I ain't doing the floor with them!

The surface is riven (very) kitchen built on it. The interesting thing is that when you lift up the rug the surface underneath is the same as the high traffic areas even though you'd expect to see some wear on the high traffic bits - this stuff is rock hard.

Customer has had the house for 7 years and did not do the deed to the floor - she hates it. Its too dark in a house with low ceilings and little windows. Mr A Martin thinks its a metallised polish hence the no joy. I can't believe not one of those products even dented it - no sign of emulsification on the test area

Heeelppp

[B Bailey]

have you tried a metalised polish stripper?

[StoneSealersHQ]

Try methylated spirits 

[Jason Smith]

Did you try the Gel we sent you?

[Jamie Pearson]

Is it driveway sealer? Seen a few like that recently. Xylene is only thing I have found that will touch it and there is no way I a, using that indoors.

[Jamie Pearson]

The Chemspec stripper would cut a metalised polish. thats what its designed for. It has to be a polyurethane to resist that lot.

[Kev Martin]

Yorkshire sandstone flag covered in a very shiny topical sealant

Water based alkaline stripper (chemspec) did not work - not suprised
Lithofin wax off - no result - sort of surprised thought the shine was lithofin slate seal
Aquamix SCR 30 mins dwell - no result
Nitromors - no result
white spirit - no result

Diamond hand block started to remove but I ain't doing the floor with them!

The surface is riven (very) kitchen built on it. The interesting thing is that when you lift up the rug the surface underneath is the same as the high traffic areas even though you'd expect to see some wear on the high traffic bits - this stuff is rock hard.

Customer has had the house for 7 years and did not do the deed to the floor - she hates it. Its too dark in a house with low ceilings and little windows. Mr A Martin thinks its a metallised polish hence the no joy. I can't believe not one of those products even dented it - no sign of emulsification on the test area

Heeelppp

Graeme

I have never come across any sealant especially a topical sealer that Aqua mix Sealing & Coating Remover can't strip off.  This includes 5 Coats of Ronseal Marine Yacht Varnish.  It took three applications with an hours dwell time each time but I got it off.  Pre wet the surface then apply the S&CR leave it for 30 minutes then agitate with your Rocky and leave for a further 30 minutes then agitate again with Rocky making sure it stays wet. (If necessary add a little more S&CR)  Then vac it up and rinse.  Then examine it I bet it starts moving it.  It may take several applications but it will get it off.

Follow the Instructions on MSDS link attached below:

http://www.custombuildingproducts.com/TDS/TDS-225.pdf

There is also a copy of these in your Aqua Mix course booklet.

Kev Martin
Marblelife ltd
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[Jason Smith]

If thats the case, sounds like your be better off speaking to Mike about his Monster Brushes.

[Graeme Smith]

The thing bouncing around in my head is that if something is going to work it needs to work up against the painted kitchen units - long dwell times with stripping agents maximum chance of damage to units. I have her email and will be back up in that area in the course of the next few weeks.

It did have that slightly plastic appearance that driveway sealer has - really shiny with no scratches or dull areas even though its been down for at least 7 years.

I know its really thick as its in a conservatory that was flooded 2 years ago and it started to flake off. I am guessing water got under the flagstones and broke the bond between the sealer and the stone so that room is now patchy as hell.

Jason did try that gel it did not work although I understand it could be left over 24 hours - I would need to apply some and maybe cover it to stop the customer and in particular the dog from walking through it.

All food for thought thanks

[Kev Martin]

If thats the case, sounds like your be better off speaking to Mike about his Monster Brushes.

Jason

There is nothing new about  Monster Brushes!  We have been selling these brushes for years they are available from us in 7 different grits and they are 33% cheaper than the so called best brushes on the planet!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics

[Kev Martin]

The thing bouncing around in my head is that if something is going to work it needs to work up against the painted kitchen units - long dwell times with stripping agents maximum chance of damage to units. I have her email and will be back up in that area in the course of the next few weeks.

It did have that slightly plastic appearance that driveway sealer has - really shiny with no scratches or dull areas even though its been down for at least 7 years.

I know its really thick as its in a conservatory that was flooded 2 years ago and it started to flake off. I am guessing water got under the flagstones and broke the bond between the sealer and the stone so that room is now patchy as hell.

Jason did try that gel it did not work although I understand it could be left over 24 hours - I would need to apply some and maybe cover it to stop the customer and in particular the dog from walking through it.

All food for thought thanks

Graeme

The only thing to be affected in a kitchen normally is the end panels and any skirting board on the walls.  The plinths which are also usually a problem can usually be removed.  The skirting boards can be sorted afterwards and the end panels can be protected with some careful masking and the use of clear silicone!

You are in a way contradicting yourself by now saying that in the conservatory the sealer has started debonding due to being flooded this just proves my point even water alone has managed to strip it albeit with probably huge dwell times.  So patience and the Aqua Mix Sealing & Coating Remover will work.

Finally you are better off with tried and tested methods and products every time!

Good Luck on your return visit and keep us posted on the outcome!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics

[Graeme Smith]

Thanks - what I was thinking of with the flooding was a two way thing - water got into the room and attacked from the top. It must have come up through the floor as the whole surrounding area was saturated trapping it against the sealer. I know from my days in the Fire & Flood game old houses they are never that dry at the best of times but point taken its not impossible to remove

[Terry Guilford]

Sounds like Armorclad to me, the only thing I can think of that would resist all that AND be shiney

Terry

[Kev Martin]

Sounds like Armorclad to me, the only thing I can think of that would resist all that AND be shiney

Terry

Terry

Saw that in the US.  Great stuff but I didn't think they sold it here?

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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[Timmy Boy]

Hi Graeme
Can you physically get through the seal, ie if you were to use a window cleaners scraper, can you get through it? If you can scrape it and it comes off in a ribbon you can see how thick it is. When you used the sealing and coating remover, did the area go sticky? Its just had a very similar experience on a limestone floor
Regards
Tim

[Graeme Smith]

Did not scrape off and did not even go Sticky with SCR or any other kind of S&C remover. I could tell how thick it was by looking at some that was peeling off in the conservatory- its bleeding thick

[Timmy Boy]

Holy Moses 

[Terry Guilford]

Kev,

I can buy it in Ireland so I guess someone sells it in the UK, it certainly is strong stuff I used to have it down on Moher/Liscannor stone in my kitchen.

Terry

[pauldugdale]

Have you tried experimenting with paint stripper- put on small area and then cover with protective sheet and leave to dwell 24 hrs.

[Terry Guilford]

Paul,
Nitromors is paint stripper, it may have an effect on Armorclad if used they way you recommend but I wouldn't put my house on it.

Terry