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ants

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Can you override low battery cut off on controller
« on: April 17, 2013, 09:41:47 pm »
Just fitted a Polarbrite duo flow controller and it constantly cuts out.

I think it must think the battery is low,its been driving me mad having to walk back to the van all day.

Does anyone know how to override it?
Or any suggestions?

It seems to do it when the battery drops from a start off of 134 volts to about 131 volts

Spruce

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Re: Can you override low battery cut off on controller
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2013, 10:19:51 pm »
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=165758.0

if this is the latest controller.

but the cutoff voltage of 13.1v doesn't make sense to me. This sounds like a calibration problem if that voltage is correct or a blockage, or a bad electrical connection/earth.

Ian Sheppard from Spring will be able to advise you. He is usually online during working hours. If he doesn't see this tomorrow morning, pse just bump it to bring it up to the top of the list.
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ants

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Re: Can you override low battery cut off on controller
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2013, 11:13:28 pm »
Cheers Spruce,
ive just read thro that link and it might be the length of wire to the battery its now about 3 metres long.Think i will shorten it 2moro to see if it makes a difference.

rosskesava

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Re: Can you override low battery cut off on controller
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2013, 11:51:49 pm »
Just get rid of the flow controller. Problem solved.

I havn't used one for years and have had no problems what so ever.
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Re: Can you override low battery cut off on controller
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2013, 08:32:14 am »
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=165758.0

if this is the latest controller.

but the cutoff voltage of 13.1v doesn't make sense to me. This sounds like a calibration problem if that voltage is correct or a blockage, or a bad electrical connection/earth.

Ian Sheppard from Spring will be able to advise you. He is usually online during working hours. If he doesn't see this tomorrow morning, pse just bump it to bring it up to the top of the list.

The low battery voltage cut off for the recent controller is 10.5V
So I do not think the battery voltage is the issue here. Volt drop along the cable as suggested by Spruce could be the issue and I would agree that you need to ensure the cables are as short as possible plus check the connectors.

Also as suggested above ensure you have no bloackages in the hose line or brush jets and run auto cal. I have attached links to videos showing how to auto cal and over ride the low battery cut off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kKoskb7l7c&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u2-5R66GcA&list=UL9kKoskb7l7c

The control will continue to display battery voltage and flash batt if below 10.5V at the battery. remember with the low bat cut off disabled the pump will drain the battery completely.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AhbZirSlpI&t=8s
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Spruce

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Re: Can you override low battery cut off on controller
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2013, 09:59:12 am »
Ian's as reliable as a genuine Swiss watch.  :)

You definitely need the correct size (gauge) cable.

We have experienced faulty Hozelok stop connectors like used on the van ports. If you use a di inside the van, Hozlok coupling were/are the favourite to couple that into the system. We found that when coupling these together the male fitting only partial unseated the stop valve causing an obstruction.

It would appear that this is a fairly common occurrance from reading other posts over the years.

I would certainly check everything else is working fine before overiding the low voltage setting. Start at the pump outlet and work from there.

I also did experience the hose on the drum getting a kink in it which blocked the flow once.
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ants

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Re: Can you override low battery cut off on controller
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2013, 08:47:19 pm »
Right ive changed my hoselock it isnt that,also re-done all connections and its  still the same.
Im wondering if its the pump.
Started out today and it was ok for 30 mins then slowly lost pressure and stopped

I changed battery then it worked ok right thro till about the last 1/4 of my tank when it lost pressure and stopped.

Ichanged battery again [i carry 4] but it was intermittent for the rest of the day.
Its as if the pressure from how much water is in the tank affects it.
Iwill buy a new pump to see if that sorts it.

Thanks for the links and taking the time to reply guys.

P.S Its not a digital controller it a  twist numpty one


Ian Sheppard

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Re: Can you override low battery cut off on controller
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2013, 08:12:33 am »
Right ive changed my hoselock it isnt that,also re-done all connections and its  still the same.
Im wondering if its the pump.
Started out today and it was ok for 30 mins then slowly lost pressure and stopped

I changed battery then it worked ok right thro till about the last 1/4 of my tank when it lost pressure and stopped.

Ichanged battery again [i carry 4] but it was intermittent for the rest of the day.
Its as if the pressure from how much water is in the tank affects it.
Iwill buy a new pump to see if that sorts it.

Thanks for the links and taking the time to reply guys.

P.S Its not a digital controller it a  twist numpty one



Ant have you got the Polarbrite Simplicity controller? If so This is not a Spring unit.

Or do you have the Spring analogue?

As far as I am aware the PB Simplicity does not have a low bat cut off but you would have to Check with Simon at PB.
 
Before you change the Pump connect it direct to the battery. If the pump is faulty you will see the same problem with pressure If it is not the pump you will have a strong flow through the hose.

One question not yet asked is what is the voltage of your battery? also how old is it?

It may be the battery is not holding its charge very well which would also explain the poor flow and pressure.
V16 Is Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AhbZirSlpI&t=8s
Polarity Protect technology

ants

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Re: Can you override low battery cut off on controller
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2013, 11:30:19 am »
Thanks Ian,i will try connecting straight to the pump and see what happens.

Its not a spring its a polarbrite duo

I dont think it can be the battery as i have 4, one is only a week old.

Yesterday was a nitemare,it was ok for about 5 hours then started playing up it got so bad i had to give up and go home about 3pm.