[richywilts]

Warning on this occasion, then Mon I'd get revised employment contracts written up with breakages to be paid for clause. If they dont sign it - P45. Job done

good idea think il do that

really? if you want to go down the route of billing for damages, make sure they have been trained, and make sure it is recorded, and you can not bill them for the brand new amount, as soon as you buy something it depreciates in value.

ever thought on doing a man management course Richy? it could be invaluable

to be honest i dont think i need it when it common sense to watch the roof of ya van when driving in and ensure the shutter fully pulled up!! ya can train and train and train people sumtime but if theyre not paying attention mistakes still happen

[Fin Clearview]

Warning on this occasion, then Mon I'd get revised employment contracts written up with breakages to be paid for clause. If they dont sign it - P45. Job done

good idea think il do that

really? if you want to go down the route of billing for damages, make sure they have been trained, and make sure it is recorded, and you can not bill them for the brand new amount, as soon as you buy something it depreciates in value.

ever thought on doing a man management course Richy? it could be invaluable

Like for like otherwise full replacement. Done this for the past 5 years with a cleaning company I am partner of. Condition of employment.

[stuart mc]

Warning on this occasion, then Mon I'd get revised employment contracts written up with breakages to be paid for clause. If they dont sign it - P45. Job done

good idea think il do that

really? if you want to go down the route of billing for damages, make sure they have been trained, and make sure it is recorded, and you can not bill them for the brand new amount, as soon as you buy something it depreciates in value.

ever thought on doing a man management course Richy? it could be invaluable

to be honest i dont think i need it when it common sense to watch the roof of ya van when driving in and ensure the shutter fully pulled up!! ya can train and train and train people sumtime but if theyre not paying attention mistakes still happen

exactly, we all make mistakes, can't your employees also make mistakes? you make plenty business wise so why do they have to be perfect? it is all a learning curve for you and them

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

It would also set a precedent IMO, start charging them, they'll start implementing every employment law under the sun. IMO not only can you not charge them but you would also, any employer I mean, be an idiot to do so, only asking for trouble.

[Fin Clearview]

It would also set a precedent IMO, start charging them, they'll start implementing every employment law under the sun. IMO not only can you not charge them but you would also, any employer I mean, be an idiot to do so, only asking for trouble.

What so your staff sub consciously dictate their own contract? At the end of the day if you treat them fair but explain that we cannot cover these losses that are down to due care and attention, they will take more responsibility. Also if you run a tight ship and understand employment rights, there cannot be any repercussions.

[rosskesava]

Show the staff how you expect them to go in and out the place and get them to do the same.

Hand out a work sheet explaining it all in detail. Get them to sign that they've understood the training and agree to follow the procedure laid down and that they will be disciplined for failing to follow what they've been shown and that it could lead to dismissal according to the rules for such things.

[colin purewater]

They would be both working a Saturday for free

And a bollocking

[robertphil]

I use tie down straps,far quicker than any clamp

[PoleKing]

For the future-mark on the pillar of the roller shutter door the minimum height it needs to be to clear the van unloaded (and add a few inches)

[Stephen.C]

had two sets now written off coz staff have drove into the unit with shutter not fully pulled up these cost me 120quid should i bill them n dock wages due to carelessness

Dont be a plank.

[Dave Willis]

Punish them - buy them a Brodex pole each.

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

What so your staff sub consciously dictate their own contract? At the end of the day if you treat them fair but explain that we cannot cover these losses that are down to due care and attention, they will take more responsibility. Also if you run a tight ship and understand employment rights, there cannot be any repercussions.

Nothing to do with contracts.

They will simply insist on having those perfectly permissible extra few minutes theyre entitled to at lunch, but that you would personally prefer them to work to be sure the job gets done, on time, before the rain comes, avoiding the traffic-jam that always puts that extra half hour of overtime on their time-sheet. It's that extra motivation that means they dont have to go back the next day to finish the job or that extra element of the job that turns it from a cover-the-costs-job to a nice-little-earner.

Its obvious. Treat them how you'd like to be treated they'll repay you. Social skills. p them off they'll p you off. Thats what happens.

You've entrusted them with the kit, if theyre not up to it why are you allowing them that privilege?

[mattstanley]

Punish them - buy them a Brodex pole each.

 

[windiewasher]

Punish them - buy them a Brodex pole each.

Like +1

[LT carpet cleaning]

They would be both working a Saturday for free

And a bollocking

I imagine you would be told exactly where to go with that rubbish.

[Richard iSparkle]

I charge for any damage to the van nowadays, i didnt used to, and had loads of bumps and scrapes.  Since I told them any more would come out of their wages there've been none!

If its wear and tear then I wouldnt charge.  if its due to lack of care then i charge them.

[richywilts]

wats most u have charged them

[Archer]

Richard,

same as me, if lads are shown how I expect them to look after and use the equipment that I buy for them to use, which is always expensive, if they damage things with lack of care, then they pay for it and they also get a telling off.

If they carry on which they haven't done as yet, then they can find another job and let them put up with there neandrathol ways.

At that point im not interested in employment law and all what comes with it, they wont be working for me again.

Funny thing is, lads who have worked for me in the past always want to come back working for me within 6-12 months, because I am fair with them and want them to use the best equipment, and they then realise I wont put up with it.

[ronnie paton]

I would and have charged, they sign to say they are responsible and something broken in neglect will be replaced.

One lad hit a wall while reversing I ain't paying for it simple another lad has damaged 5 taps in 8 weeks cause he drags them drops them and doesn't care.

Staff will abuse your equipment if they can cause they don't care, now if you make them responsible and the relies the outcome of neglect they should soon try too think before they abuse

[Richard iSparkle]

wats most u have charged them

I honestly haven't had any breakages since I told them they were paying for it.

I would charge them what it costs.  if its a large amount i would let them pay it off over a set time to help them out.

the only way they will respect equipemtn is if they know they have to pay for it.

same with their uniforms...