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Carl2009

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SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« on: April 04, 2013, 05:32:15 pm »
Hi guys,

Today a clamp came loose on my SLX 25. I've replaced them all once before on this pole which is near the end of its life. I was going to order a new one next week along with some other stuff (after my year end on the 6th April) but they are out of stock till first week of May.

I've been off here for a while and haven't been following the feedback on the Phoenix poles - anyone users out there to give honest feedback pls?

As the clamp broke I had to switch to my spare SLX 25 which has the old style single-trim unflocked Superlite brush. Wow - what a difference! I now realise that I much prefer the original over the dual trim jobby I have now. Alex - if you are reading this any chance you can bring back the old brush?

Cheers

ben M

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2013, 05:39:32 pm »
i have a slx25 (15 months old) and i will probably give a chance to facelift phoenix soon. I like my slx25 but the pole wear too quickly! i don't think i will buy again a gardiner pole except if the new slxII is much better.

Mike @ Facelift

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 06:50:16 pm »
There will be a review of our Phoenix poles in the window cleaning magazine this month....

stevieg

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 06:58:41 pm »
Give the x.line evolution pro a look,excellent.

Mike #1

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 07:23:20 pm »
Now apparently the Evo 25FT CARBON is lighter than the slx according to details on xline site . Mike

dd

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 07:32:31 pm »
I wish Alex would bring back the single trim flocked brush. Is this the one you mean?

ben M

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 07:36:19 pm »
Carl,how old is your slx25?

Deangsi

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2013, 07:42:54 pm »
my extreme 25 is going the same after 3 weeks getting my hands covered in black and uneven ware :(

Deangsi

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 07:43:35 pm »
but i absolutly adore the pole its realy rigid and the lightest iv used

Mike #1

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 07:48:58 pm »
Used S-Max 40 first gardiners pole i have had and lightness and rigidity is great i like the fact that the outer diametre of the pole sections is quite small in comparision to my Elite carbon and a lot lighter .

Took 3 sections off and been using it as a 25ft pole really good  quality pole good clamps easily adjustable also fitted the new Quick loc resi neck nice and solid like it a lot .

If i could have waited for SLX II i would have hopefully it will possible to fit the new revolutionry  clamps to older poles . Mike

niceandclean

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2013, 07:52:39 pm »
Now apparently the Evo 25FT CARBON is lighter than the slx according to details on xline site . Mike

Lighter and shorter. Looks like a nice pole, may be worth a punt for £250 plus the extras!

davids3511

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2013, 08:01:49 pm »
but i absolutly adore the pole its realy rigid and the lightest iv used
I just used a tin of engine laquer on a 20 foot slx and a 25 foot extreme. Put 3 or 4 coats on and it is fantastic. Protects it and you can add another layer to anywhere that is wearing unevenly. If I have to do this every month it will be worth it. Many thanks to whom ever first suggested it (Spruce?).

ben M

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2013, 08:04:32 pm »
but i absolutly adore the pole its realy rigid and the lightest iv used
I just used a tin of engine laquer on a 20 foot slx and a 25 foot extreme. Put 3 or 4 coats on and it is fantastic. Protects it and you can add another layer to anywhere that is wearing unevenly. If I have to do this every month it will be worth it. Many thanks to whom ever first suggested it (Spruce?).
where do you get your engine laquer? thanks

Mike #1

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2013, 08:13:52 pm »
Now apparently the Evo 25FT CARBON is lighter than the slx according to details on xline site . Mike

Lighter and shorter. Looks like a nice pole, may be worth a punt for £250 plus the extras!

Personally i cannot see it been lighter if they are using the same clamps as used on Elite poles which are now branded as the Evolution poles then defo not the  clamps are much bigger than those on an SLX .

Which will add extra weight and after using an Elite for almost 2 yrs i Know the difference the pole sections are heavier .

Some one buy an Evolution and compare to an SLX i just dont see how it can be lighter X-line bought out the waterfed pole company supplier of Elite poles . Mike

ben M

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2013, 08:18:19 pm »
slx out of stock? we should get the slxII very soon then  ;)

Xline Systems

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2013, 08:57:59 pm »
Give the x.line evolution pro a look,excellent.

glad your getting along with the pole steve

chez

Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2013, 09:06:06 pm »
Been using the pheonix 22 carbon for 3 weeks now. All I can say is it is superb. I can extend and retract much quicker. Not adjusting the clamps. Very rigid. Excellent pole.

Carl2009

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2013, 10:28:26 pm »
Ben - My SLX 25 has got to be 18 months old. It's used daily and is the pole I use for 95% of the jobs I do. It's been an excellent tool. Some may complain about the clamps, but since they altered how they glued them on and changed the barrell nuts (ahhhh) they've been fine.

The top 2" of each of the top two sections wears disproportionately fast, but this is the nature of the way I use the pole mixed with the fact its carbon fibre - CF seems fairly soft. It's no bother to fix new clamps on after sawing off a couple of inches from each section.

I'm interested in the engine lacquer - more details please.

As I said i've been absent for a while, what's this about a SLX ll...?

ben M

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2013, 10:30:29 pm »
Ben - My SLX 25 has got to be 18 months old. It's used daily and is the pole I use for 95% of the jobs I do. It's been an excellent tool. Some may complain about the clamps, but since they altered how they glued them on and changed the barrell nuts (ahhhh) they've been fine.

The top 2" of each of the top two sections wears disproportionately fast, but this is the nature of the way I use the pole mixed with the fact its carbon fibre - CF seems fairly soft. It's no bother to fix new clamps on after sawing off a couple of inches from each section.

I'm interested in the engine lacquer - more details please.

As I said i've been absent for a while, what's this about a SLX ll...?
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-Gardiner-Carbon-Fibre-Pole-Sale-SLXII_Gif.html

Carl2009

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Re: SLX 25's out of stock - should I try Phoenix?
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2013, 01:42:11 pm »
Mmm, interesting. Anyone any idea what the modifications over the last version will be?