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richard jagger

Can one push start a diesel van.
« on: March 21, 2013, 06:38:39 pm »
As its my first diesel van. Can I push start my van as I think its starter motor has packet up.
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H2GoKent

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2013, 06:40:45 pm »
As long as the glow plugs have worked then yes.
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C o z y

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2013, 06:41:24 pm »
Of course. 3rd gear, away you go.
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Simon@ Clearview contractors

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2013, 06:45:53 pm »
Not good for a diesel engine...
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Frankybadboy

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2013, 06:48:07 pm »
not with a full tank of water ;D ;D ;D
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landy2

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2013, 06:52:16 pm »
yes you sure can my starter motor packed in  , and had to get my garage to get it they just bumb started it no problem
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H2GoKent

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2013, 06:53:47 pm »
bumb started it! That's not a service on the AA is it.
Sorry to pick up on a typo but it was funny
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R.W.C.S

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2013, 07:30:28 pm »
If it's your starter motor, the best thing you can do is locate it, and give it a good whack with a hammer.

Mine went on my Vauxhall Astravan, gave it a good whack, and it lasted for another six months before it finally died.
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stuart mc

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2013, 07:32:34 pm »
Quote from: Simon@ Clearview contractors on March 21, 2013, 06:45:53 pm
Not good for a diesel engine...

why

and to the OP yes you can bump it
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robert mitchell

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2013, 07:36:37 pm »
It Can be problematic on any modern engine due to the filters on the exhaust .

Prob wont do any harm on the odd occassion though .
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stevieg

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2013, 08:13:50 pm »
Bloody starter motors,just changed mine today! Started playing up 2 days ago and failed this morning.  Absolute pig of a job(2 hours contorted under an Ldv) Done now and after a hot bath finally thawed out and rearing to go out tomorrow in the B..... snow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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colin purewater

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2013, 08:27:20 pm »
Heavy vans  bump Easyier in reverse
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richard jagger

Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2013, 08:51:41 pm »
I am not sure its the starter motor all the dash lights,light up but when I turn the Key and nothing happens,not even a tick.I will give it a whack tomorrow as suggested.I was driving back from the Window cleaning show and the motor just went dead then started again but when I reached home is would not start.
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Simon@ Clearview contractors

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2013, 09:26:21 pm »
Diesel engines run at a highr compression than petrol engines...

Also, for a temporary you can arc starters into actionh if they are dying, simply get a bolt in a pait of pliers and touch both terminals on the starter.  It's not ideal but if your really stuck it sometimes works...
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stuart mc

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2013, 10:05:24 pm »
Quote from: Smithie on March 21, 2013, 08:51:41 pm
I am not sure its the starter motor all the dash lights,light up but when I turn the Key and nothing happens,not even a tick.I will give it a whack tomorrow as suggested.I was driving back from the Window cleaning show and the motor just went dead then started again but when I reached home is would not start.

if it died on you while driving it is not starter motor, more likely alternator/ fan belt or battery not taking a charge
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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2013, 10:10:44 pm »
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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2013, 10:11:30 pm »
Quote from: stuart m on March 21, 2013, 10:05:24 pm
Quote from: Smithie on March 21, 2013, 08:51:41 pm
I am not sure its the starter motor all the dash lights,light up but when I turn the Key and nothing happens,not even a tick.I will give it a whack tomorrow as suggested.I was driving back from the Window cleaning show and the motor just went dead then started again but when I reached home is would not start.

if it died on you while driving it is not starter motor, more likely alternator/ fan belt or battery not taking a charge

+1 or the earth.
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stuart mc

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2013, 10:14:26 pm »
Quote from: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on March 21, 2013, 10:11:30 pm
Quote from: stuart m on March 21, 2013, 10:05:24 pm
Quote from: Smithie on March 21, 2013, 08:51:41 pm
I am not sure its the starter motor all the dash lights,light up but when I turn the Key and nothing happens,not even a tick.I will give it a whack tomorrow as suggested.I was driving back from the Window cleaning show and the motor just went dead then started again but when I reached home is would not start.

if it died on you while driving it is not starter motor, more likely alternator/ fan belt or battery not taking a charge

+1 or the earth.

agreed forgot about that,
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Spruce

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Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2013, 07:17:56 am »
Some vehicle have a fuseable link that blows if the starter motor draws too much current. Of those that do employ this method of current protection, the fuse may cut current completely, but others just use it on the main starter cable leaving power to other functions.

There will be a fuse protecting the solenoid, and there may even be a relay in that same circuit.

As has been stated - check that there is current from the battery at the main starter terminal and then check if there is current to the solenoid when turn the key to start.

As a temporary check you can run a test cable from the battery + a touch the solenoid terminal with the other end. If it kicks the starter motor into life, then the problem isn't the starter motor.
 
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richard jagger

Re: Can one push start a diesel van.
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2013, 10:40:56 am »
Thanks chap for the input and a special thanks to my mate Spruce always ready with his good knowledge of vehicles.
I have solved the problem it was a bad earth connection. I checked the battery and only registered 11.56 volt so thought put the charger on and then saw the state the earth lead was in so replaced it. Thanks, there is always someone on this forum to help and advise.Me  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D again
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