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Radek Jablonski

  • Posts: 956
Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2013, 09:21:28 pm »
will have only 50' of hoses for now, so stairs and landing will be able to do off the van I guess, in future mostly off the van with the scorpion tanks and more hoses.
business in Cork? hmm hard to say, only few month in business, so its to early for any opinions from newbie

Brendan (chem2clean)

  • Posts: 958
Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2013, 09:27:49 pm »
hey radek,good luck with it,usually starts getting busier in the next couple of weeks.

Jim_77

Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2013, 12:17:32 pm »
You can easily add an extra port for your vac hose on to one of those tanks.  You just need the right sized tank cutter to make the hole, fit a hose barb and seal it on ;)

Nick would maybe help you out with it if you ask nicely :)

gaz1984mcc

  • Posts: 194
Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2013, 01:31:44 pm »
Cheers Jim do you not think they will implode then?

thanks

Gary

gaz1984mcc

  • Posts: 194
Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2013, 01:42:00 pm »
hmm slightly confused i just rang up woodbridge to ask if they sell the electro motors that are used in the mytee escape. To be told that they sell "powervac" motors for them instead. I'm pretty sure that they were supposed to be Electro motors.

Gary

john martin

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Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2013, 02:01:49 pm »
hmm slightly confused i just rang up woodbridge to ask if they sell the electro motors that are used in the mytee escape. To be told that they sell "powervac" motors for them instead. I'm pretty sure that they were supposed to be Electro motors.

Gary

I dont think any distributor will call them ' Electro motors '  is you look at the link i put up earlier for Larry Cobbs site he is calling them ' Dynachem ' motors . 

Its likely Woodbridge made up the powervac name ,   I think they used to be on the woodbridges old site simply called ' Mytee motors '  and the price was steep enough .  All the mytee portables use electros , but only the LTD5  , 1005dx , floodhog , and some of the many boosters use the higher power ones .

You would really need to make sure you are getting the vac model you want , so i would either explain to woodbridge u want the ' Mytee motors '  the higher powered ones with the slightly rounded bottom ( send them a pic ) ....  or just phone electro to save confusion and perhaps get them cheaper .

looking at woodbridges site the powervac branded motors are probably european ameteks .... they may be calling all the  vacs they sell ' powervacs' , but they should have explained it to you better , as it only spreads confusion as to what motors are used in the escape .

gaz1984mcc

  • Posts: 194
Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2013, 02:13:23 pm »
Thanks John I'll give electro a call and see how much to get them shipped to the UK and also find out the correct model number.

Cheers

Gary

Jim_77

Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2013, 06:09:21 pm »
Gaz, the lift developed by the motor configuration you suggest should be nowhere near enough to implode one of those tanks.  The imploded one shown above was done by a positive displacement blower which is capable of way higher lift.

JK may be able to clarify but I'd guess the prowler doesn't have a vac relief valve, or at least that system didn't have one built in to it?  Truckmounts are generally limited to 14 or 15" Hg lift otherwise, if the blower was allowed to reach its full potential lift you wouldn't be able to move the wand across the carpet and the vac hoses would collapse!

John Kelly

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Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2013, 06:34:51 pm »
You are right Jim, don't think that one did. New ones have one fitted.

gaz1984mcc

  • Posts: 194
Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2013, 09:25:04 pm »
Thanks for that Jim might save me some money if I can get some used ones  :) I've made an enquiry at shop4tanks regarding getting a stainless steel one made up depending on the cost.

Thanks

Gary

Jim_77

Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2013, 12:14:18 am »
No sweat Gaz.  Thanks John, thought that might be the case ;)

AJB

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Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2013, 12:28:21 pm »
2 x 3 stage in series will produce as much or more lift than a prowler.
obviously the CFMs are way down.

2 x 3 stage in series x 2 parallel will give approx. 220+" water lift.
with 210+ CFMs depending on motors used.

Not a good idea to use with tanks designed for parallel machines.
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Jim_77

Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2013, 01:53:39 pm »
With respect, have you ever felt the difference between an in-series portable and a truckmount blower, when you lose hold of the end of the hose and it grabs hold of your boll*cks?!!  Not sure what the scientific explanation is but a positive displacement blower being mechanically turned by an engine is a hell of a lot more savage than electric vacs, which struggle and bog down under load.

When I used to hook two ninjas up in parallel, it never collapsed the vac hose - I use a small piece of exactly the same hose as my whip line on the TM now, and it stands up to the job perfectly well.  Those tanks will be fine!

gaz1984mcc

  • Posts: 194
Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2013, 08:58:52 pm »
Tbh Jim no I haven't I wish I could afford one  :( lol. I know it's going to be no where near as powerful as a truck mount. But cost wise it's gonna be a lot cheaper and hopefully do me well until I can afford a truck mount. Also upgrades should be quite cheap if I just upgrade the vacs ie 4 x 6.6 vacs in series/parallel. Cheers Jim

Thank you

Gary

peter maybury

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Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2013, 11:28:36 pm »
I spent years and years improving performance,  had tanks and machine shells fabricated and what you will find out, no matter how long it will take you is that: truckmounts have been designed by pretty clever guys to deliver productivty, power and reliability and in a way that you will never ecomonmically achieve yourself.

Peter

Mark Slaney

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Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2013, 11:37:48 pm »


  You can always strengthen the tanks with a metal bar inside, some of the old ninjas have this mod, not sure why though unless the tanks were that weak.

AshWhite

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Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2013, 08:51:19 am »
Jim, 'lose the end of your hose and it ends up on your b*ll*ocks'? That old chestnut, eh?

I'm guessing someone spent 'Beer & BJ' day alone?

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Billy Russell

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Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2013, 01:05:26 pm »
Jim, 'lose the end of your hose and it ends up on your b*ll*ocks'? That old chestnut, eh?

I'm guessing someone spent 'Beer & BJ' day alone?

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John Kelly

  • Posts: 4461
Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2013, 02:56:10 pm »
I had a Ninja where the tank was sucking in. I installed a stainless steel bar as was installed on later models.

gaz1984mcc

  • Posts: 194
Re: Waste tank help.
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2013, 08:38:22 pm »
I spent years and years improving performance,  had tanks and machine shells fabricated and what you will find out, no matter how long it will take you is that: truckmounts have been designed by pretty clever guys to deliver productivty, power and reliability and in a way that you will never ecomonmically achieve yourself.

Peter

Hi Peter could you let me know which configurations you have tried out? Have you tried 4 three stage in series/parallel. Also Peter I'm not sure which part of the country your in but is there any chance you could let me know where you had the tanks made. Because I'm still waiting for shop 4tanks to get back to me with a price.

Thank you

Gary