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sunshine windies

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CLX Issues
« on: February 22, 2013, 08:06:12 pm »
I have had my clx 22 for nearly a year couple of weeks ago i noticed the red started running off the top section and dripping into my van now, wear and tear i guess?

 the main problem though is the clamps, the top 2 sections will be tight when extended even a little bit but when i bring the pole down i always have to retighten the clamps, its not ideal with gloves on. anyone know what i can do about this?
i took it all apart and cleaned everything last week but do i need to replace the nuts/bolts or is it that the sections are knackered?

thanks
scott

sunshine windows

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2013, 08:31:02 pm »
The base of the sections are worn.

Either build the areas up using a recommended product, wrap some tape around that particular area, or just operate the pole with each section slightly extended.

Oh, or buy a new pole or replace the sections.


Regards
Lance
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(Swindon, Wiltshire)

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sunshine windies

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2013, 08:42:32 pm »
Thanks

when you say a recommended product, like what?

WGB

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2013, 09:54:17 pm »
Had the same problem with mine (not CLX), ur pole is just woren mate, i had a spare smaller pole and put the larger sections on of it, sorted :)

wpclean

Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2013, 10:03:39 pm »
I had exactly the same problem, and Gardiners sent me the top two sections free of charge . . . . good as new now  ;D

Window Washers

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2013, 10:11:40 pm »
I had exactly the same problem, and Gardiners sent me the top two sections free of charge . . . . good as new now  ;D
what after a years use ?

Wow if this is true I would like some sections for ours
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

SPE

Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2013, 12:00:21 am »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArdGzztbvJ4
shows you what you need to know

Steve Sed

Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2013, 05:23:09 am »
I had exactly the same problem, and Gardiners sent me the top two sections free of charge . . . . good as new now  ;D
what after a years use ?

Wow if this is true I would like some sections for ours
They start wearing much quicker than that. My top section was worn after 3 months and now after 8 months the second section is worn and has been for several months. My XTEL was the same though.

Mike #1

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2013, 06:45:37 am »
I have come to the conclusion that it is the user that can cause excessive wear on pole section regardless of pole .

If you tend to lower your pole down then hold it at a angle so when collapsing sections you are pulling them towards you , And the same if you extend some sections while the pole is in a horizontal position .

You will get wear on the under side of each section were the pole is in contact with the clamp body because the weight of the section as you extend or collapse each section is causing the section to rub against the clamp and cause excessive wear.

Thats what happens with mine most of the wear occurs on the under side of each section .

But also if you are not fully opening the clamps at times along with clamping in the same area of each section this will cause wear mostly at the the top and the base of each .

And last of all never fully close clamps when their is not a need to just close clamps to the point that they are nipping each section in place .  ;D ;D Mike

Steve Sed

Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2013, 07:11:35 am »
I have come to the conclusion that it is use that can cause excessive wear on pole section regardless of pole . 
FTFY

dd

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2013, 08:46:36 am »
I tend not to fully collapse sections on pole by an inch or two so the clamp bites on a less worn section of the pole.

Also when extending pole if the clamp is very tight I do not close it all the way, just enough so it bites nicely, this allows the clamp to be fully closed and to bite when the pole is collapsed.

I look after my clx and it is in good condition, but I start getting this problem with the clamps after about 3 months and it gets progressively worse. I have found the two measures above very helpful.

ascjim

Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2013, 09:15:29 am »
You will always get this problem in this game

dd

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2013, 09:44:32 am »
You will always get this problem in this game
I did not get this problem with extender clamps on the xtel poles. The clx clamps need adjusting on an hourly basis, or more often. The clx is a nicer pole to use than the xtel though, even if the clamps are a pain.

SPE

Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2013, 01:03:52 pm »
You will always get this problem in this game
I did not get this problem with extender clamps on the xtel poles. The clx clamps need adjusting on an hourly basis, or more often. The clx is a nicer pole to use than the xtel though, even if the clamps are a pain.
I agree dd
I used xtel hybrids before the clx and smax40, and the clamps never gave this problem.
i know there is something to be said for looking after your tools, but there is also something to be said for buying a wfp and just using it for the job it was intended without the need for regular cleaning, servicing and adjustments. Something that I never had to give thought to before.  :-\

Alex Gardiner

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2013, 03:33:45 pm »
I have had my clx 22 for nearly a year couple of weeks ago i noticed the red started running off the top section and dripping into my van now, wear and tear i guess?

 the main problem though is the clamps, the top 2 sections will be tight when extended even a little bit but when i bring the pole down i always have to retighten the clamps, its not ideal with gloves on. anyone know what i can do about this?
i took it all apart and cleaned everything last week but do i need to replace the nuts/bolts or is it that the sections are knackered?

thanks
scott

Hi Sungless

At a year old I would expect to see wear on a CLX pole - this is typical of a composite material pole. The reason that you are having to adjust the clamps when the sections are closed is that the very top 2" of any section will wear first and this means that the diameter of the section has become less which means the clamps when adjusted to clamp on the rest of the section will not clamp on this part.

Why do these top areas of sections wear most at these points?

It is because, when used on low level work, the clamps are closed on this point. On low level work most of the strain on the pole is on a lateral plane - basically the pole is used sideways a lot more on ground floor work than on first floor work. This puts more twisting motion on the clamp and section at this point and hence the abrasion over a period of time leads to increased wear at this one point. Poles used mainly on high level work tend to get more wear in the fully open position as this is where they are clamped most often.

What can be done about it once the section has worn in this area?
There are 4 work-arounds that can be used as opposed to replacing the worn sections:

1. When closing the pole, simply do not fully close this section, by doing this you will be clamping on a fresh area which will solve the problem (this is what I do when it happens on an older pole to me as all of the other 3 solutions involve work!).
2. Similar to above you can wrap about 4 wraps of insulating tape over the worn area so that the section cannot fully close on to it and the clamp holds on a fresh place.
3. You can fit a new clamp, but at the same time saw off the last 15mm of this worn section (at most you may lose 2cm) before re-fitting the clamp to the section.
4. You can re-finish this small worn area. To do so mix up a little two-pack rapid setting epoxy resin (Araldite Rapid or similar) and smear a very thin layer over the worn area. Allow to dry and then sand smooth any ridges. This will have built-up this area and it will work like new - here is a video link showing how to do this - http://youtu.be/ArdGzztbvJ4



Alex Gardiner

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2013, 03:35:15 pm »
I had exactly the same problem, and Gardiners sent me the top two sections free of charge . . . . good as new now  ;D

This will be because of a production fault with your specific pole not down to general wear and tear after a year's use.

We're not that generous!

Alex Gardiner

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2013, 03:37:42 pm »
You will always get this problem in this game
I did not get this problem with extender clamps on the xtel poles. The clx clamps need adjusting on an hourly basis, or more often. The clx is a nicer pole to use than the xtel though, even if the clamps are a pain.

If your clamps need adjusting on an hourly basis then this means that the lock-nut part of the barrel-nut has worn. If the barrel nuts were to be renewed then you would find that they would no longer need adjusting in use - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/SL-X-Lever--SLX_BARREL_NUTS.html

sunshine windies

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2013, 05:07:24 pm »
Hi thanks for the advice I have put some tape around the offending bits of.pole and that seems to have sorted it.

Thanks
Scott

Deangsi

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2013, 07:54:21 pm »
Quick question for Alex gardiner sorry bit of topic I have slx18 not sure how old it is but if I buy an slx 22 bace section this will go straight on my 18 to make it a 22? I tried this with my mates bace section but just wanted to be certain before I order as you may have changed the pole sections width now?

Alex Gardiner

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Re: CLX Issues
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2013, 08:10:45 pm »
Quick question for Alex gardiner sorry bit of topic I have slx18 not sure how old it is but if I buy an slx 22 bace section this will go straight on my 18 to make it a 22? I tried this with my mates bace section but just wanted to be certain before I order as you may have changed the pole sections width now?

Hi Dean

You can certainly do this and they will fit.

What I would recommend doing though is to fit an Xtreme EXT22 extension section which is exactly the same size and weight and will fit on in exactly the same way. This is currently on sale for just £41 instead of £62 which is the price of the SLX22 base section. Here is the link - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Super-Lite-Xtreme-trade-47---Hi-Modulus-Carbon-Pole--47-77ft--SLXTREME_EXTENSIONS.html