the pole i use at the moment is a supermax 45, i have it stripped down to a slx 22 (ish) which i do most of the work with then i just addd the bottom when i have higher windows, i can do this in 30 seconds i timed out of interest the other day, the pole is that good i think i will continue to do this for about two years and then buy an slx and have the old one just as a supermax dazmond style