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Paul Moss

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2013, 06:36:30 pm »
 Is that because Andrew Laurrey is an anagram of Wary Launderer ;D

Warren Aldridge

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2013, 07:05:41 pm »
Well you certainly sold it well but at a quid per small job.... I'm out

The TACCA Scrutineer

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2013, 07:32:21 pm »
Well you certainly sold it well but at a quid per small job.... I'm out

I think thAt is very very good compared to what it was costing before in pre-sprays, detergents, spotters, etc.

I have a half a tub of F90 still on board, but as yet, I have never needed it.

Each to their own..

james roffey

Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2013, 08:23:58 am »
So you dont use any spotters other than white spirit "in water" and a detergent in the tank strange i have about eight different spotters all of which work on different stains and spots, also have white spirit in the van use it sometimes once or twice a year  

£1.00 a job on chemicals is more than i probably pay so your paying more to use inferior products, I would also bet my house Powerburst would be better than your strange concoction.

As has been pointed out by the many replies the maths simply does not add up let alone the science.


Russ Chadd

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2013, 12:33:03 pm »
Interesting... You mention using normal carpet cleaning agents reduces your margins?
You must be either seriously under charging or have the worlds most expensive vax to run?

wynne jones

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2013, 05:45:42 pm »
The main reason I would stick to Prochem products or suchlike is your insurance company is going to laugh down the phone at you if you screw up using washing powder and stuff to clean paint brushes.

On the other hand I use white spirit all the time (not in a spayer) and its cheaper and more effective than many commercial spotters. Also, are we not just gullible consumers like housewives who are sold the idea of a 'new improved' formula backed up by science even though its pure marketing bull?
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

james roffey

Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2013, 08:21:55 pm »
Wynne there might be some truth in what you say we are always looking to improve the end result and new chemicals make big claims that are not always backed up, i dont think it is a coincidence that of all the chemicals i have tried since i started i am now using the same stuff all the time now, and its also no coincidence that they are the same chemicals the vast majority are using on this forum, they work for us so we use them.

The TACCA Scrutineer

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2013, 10:47:26 pm »
So you dont use any spotters other than white spirit "in water" and a detergent in the tank strange i have about eight different spotters all of which work on different stains and spots, also have white spirit in the van use it sometimes once or twice a year  

£1.00 a job on chemicals is more than i probably pay so your paying more to use inferior products, I would also bet my house Powerburst would be better than your strange concoction.

As has been pointed out by the many replies the maths simply does not add up let alone the science.



Only white spirit.

No, I don't use detergent in the tank, as I have already stated 3 times, chem is sprayed on and rinsed off sep.

You don't think £1 cost of chems for £120 work of work is good?  ???

BTW I have been doing this job for last 27 years so I'm not some fly by night carpet cleaner  :o

How many years experience do you have James?

The TACCA Scrutineer

  • Posts: 114
Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2013, 10:50:27 pm »
Interesting... You mention using normal carpet cleaning agents reduces your margins?
You must be either seriously under charging or have the worlds most expensive vax to run?

I charge £60 per hour normally, more if I can get it!   ;)

james roffey

Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2013, 08:47:28 am »
Andrew i have much  less experience than you been carpet cleaning four years now and still learning.

I naively thought when i joined this forum that the wealth of combined knowledge of over 21000 members and who knows how many years of experience would be a good place to start if i wanted to learn how to clean carpets. obviously i was wrong and i apologise.

Deep Cleaning Solutions

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2013, 08:48:23 am »
" BTW I have been doing this job for last 27 years "

And i know a carpet cleaner who's been doing 35 years and has shrunk 5 belgian wiltons, one of them recently.
I've done hundreds with no problems in my short time of trading and he often calls me for advice!

Bad practise is bad practise even if you have been doing it for years.
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*Hector*

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2013, 09:05:57 am »
" BTW I have been doing this job for last 27 years "

!

Bad practise is bad practise even if you have been doing it for years.


Everyday this forum slips further from God.  :'(

Simon Gerrard

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2013, 10:25:36 am »
I'm in France at the moment cleaning three ships, five days each, one after the other. So far we have cleaned two of them and have used two thirds of a tub of Shockwave to do both, so £20 per ship which is peanuts in comparison to the price tag.
Would I use washing liquid to this or any other job? Not a chance in hell. The difference between washing clothes and cleaning carpet is that one is immersion cleaning where clothes are totally immersed in water and extraction cleaning is surface cleaning, two completely different methods. If you look at how many rinse cycles a washing machine goes through to flushnout the dirt and residual chemical and then compare that to the passing of a wand over a carpet you'd probably begin to worry how much of the washing liquid you are actually removing if you're using it on carpet, which should be a worry to any professional.

Simon

Paul Moss

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2013, 01:47:38 pm »
Simon can you bring me some onions back with you please

Simon Gerrard

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #54 on: January 15, 2013, 01:59:01 pm »
Paul,
A full necklace of them with a free French hat and a few bunches of garlic so you'll not only look like them, you'll smell like them too ;D

JandS

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2013, 02:27:45 pm »
I've got a dirty 3 piece tomorrow.
Where's cheapest place for brillo pads?    ;D
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Simon Gerrard

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2013, 04:21:34 pm »
Aldi are doing cheap bog brushes in a variety of sizes for agitation with a new upholstery prespray, cilitfab ;D

JandS

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #57 on: January 15, 2013, 06:17:42 pm »
Brillos are better you have detergent and agitation in one.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

garybristow

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2013, 04:50:33 pm »
i might get him to do my ol womans alan wickers ;D ;D ;D ;D

Simon Gerrard

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Re: which pre-spray?
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2013, 06:46:12 pm »
He'll be ok when one of our Asian friends asks, 'how much to WASH my carpet?' ;D