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mark m

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R.C Property

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2013, 07:05:54 pm »
Not too bad of a review!

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2013, 07:07:29 pm »
Is the Facelift carbon or glass? as the CLX is a hybrid- 50% glass/50% carbon.

R.C Property

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2013, 07:11:17 pm »
They was both the hybrid poles,
At the end of the month I'll be getting the full carbon ultralight pole and doing test with that against the same gardiner poles, plus there I will be doing a review of a brand new pole that's nothing even on the market yet!!!

Dani J

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2013, 07:37:29 pm »

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2013, 07:39:05 pm »
Renegade!!!!!!!

R.C Property

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2013, 07:46:15 pm »

Mike @ Facelift

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2013, 07:58:57 pm »

Mike @ Facelift

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2013, 08:11:17 pm »
Sex on legs!!! That's what I think every time I see it!!!

R.C Property

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2013, 08:12:49 pm »
Sex on legs!!! That's what I think every time I see it!!!

Best not let the misses see that! Lol

Washing Windows

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2013, 08:27:40 pm »
Thanks for the review.

Unfortunately my experience of the quick release for the CL-X/SL-X is very different from your own. I have 2 x CL-X 18 and an SL-X 35 and the quick release on the SL-X is anything but... the last time I tried to swap it out I was worried I was going to break the pole and I even rang Gardiners and spoke to one of the girls in customer services about it. She suggested it was a known issue and that a kettle of boiling water should help the clamp to expand, which with me and my son swinging on the pole eventually worked. Not good as the SL-X was only a couple of weeks old at this stage and the lack of quick in the release defeated the purpose. Both the CL-X quick releases are fine. At some stage I will get round to sanding the stem of the quick release down to improve it's performance but I was very disappointed.

Despite this I will be sticking with Gardiner poles as I feel Alex is very much involved with the window cleaning community and I like his hands on approach.

You could try adding some stop tape to your facelift pole to cure the over extending problem.

Duncan

Dani J

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2013, 08:33:48 pm »
Thanks for the review.

Unfortunately my experience of the quick release for the CL-X/SL-X is very different from your own. I have 2 x CL-X 18 and an SL-X 35 and the quick release on the SL-X is anything but... the last time I tried to swap it out I was worried I was going to break the pole and I even rang Gardiners and spoke to one of the girls in customer services about it. She suggested it was a known issue and that a kettle of boiling water should help the clamp to expand, which with me and my son swinging on the pole eventually worked. Not good as the SL-X was only a couple of weeks old at this stage and the lack of quick in the release defeated the purpose. Both the CL-X quick releases are fine. At some stage I will get round to sanding the stem of the quick release down to improve it's performance but I was very disappointed.

Despite this I will be sticking with Gardiner poles as I feel Alex is very much involved with the window cleaning community and I like his hands on approach.

You could try adding some stop tape to your facelift pole to cure the over extending problem.

Duncan


What you mean his hands on Approach, ?  ;D as if other companies not hands on approach?    ;D

CleanClear

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2013, 08:35:29 pm »

Unfortunately my experience of the quick release for the CL-X/SL-X is very different from your own.
I thought this too. Mine are a bugger to seperate. I'd love to know his maintainance regime to keep a clx in such good condition after three years,mine look like they've just come out of a scrap yard after a year.

You could try adding some stop tape to your facelift pole to cure the over extending problem.

That might be worth trying although i've never done that. In my experience once you overextend, especially when on the job it results in a snapped clamp. Works out some where around £20 with postage for a new clamp.
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Alex Gardiner

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2013, 08:39:20 pm »
Thanks for the review.

Unfortunately my experience of the quick release for the CL-X/SL-X is very different from your own. I have 2 x CL-X 18 and an SL-X 35 and the quick release on the SL-X is anything but... the last time I tried to swap it out I was worried I was going to break the pole and I even rang Gardiners and spoke to one of the girls in customer services about it. She suggested it was a known issue and that a kettle of boiling water should help the clamp to expand, which with me and my son swinging on the pole eventually worked. Not good as the SL-X was only a couple of weeks old at this stage and the lack of quick in the release defeated the purpose. Both the CL-X quick releases are fine. At some stage I will get round to sanding the stem of the quick release down to improve it's performance but I was very disappointed.

Despite this I will be sticking with Gardiner poles as I feel Alex is very much involved with the window cleaning community and I like his hands on approach.

You could try adding some stop tape to your facelift pole to cure the over extending problem.

Duncan

Sorry to hear that Duncan.  The simple resolution for this is for us to send you a replacement quick release resi-neck which should have been offered when you rang to discuss the issue originally.  A not very quick release (!) resi-neck can very occasionally happen from a production run, if the tolerances of the injection moulded resi-neck are slightly out.  Please email me your full name, address and order number to alex@agardiner.co.uk and I will get this sorted for you.

mark m

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2013, 08:45:13 pm »

Unfortunately my experience of the quick release for the CL-X/SL-X is very different from your own.
I thought this too. Mine are a bugger to seperate. I'd love to know his maintainance regime to keep a clx in such good condition after three years,mine look like they've just come out of a scrap yard after a year.

You could try adding some stop tape to your facelift pole to cure the over extending problem.

That might be worth trying although i've never done that. In my experience once you overextend, especially when on the job it results in a snapped clamp. Works out some where around £20 with postage for a new clamp.





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Lee GLS

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2013, 08:58:47 pm »

Unfortunately my experience of the quick release for the CL-X/SL-X is very different from your own.
I thought this too. Mine are a bugger to seperate. I'd love to know his maintainance regime to keep a clx in such good condition after three years,mine look like they've just come out of a scrap yard after a year.

You could try adding some stop tape to your facelift pole to cure the over extending problem.

That might be worth trying although i've never done that. In my experience once you overextend, especially when on the job it results in a snapped clamp. Works out some where around £20 with postage for a new clamp.





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Isnt the spray you use an oil based ptfe spray? if it is i thought it wasnt recommended for use in the poles, it needs to be a dry PTFE spray.

Window Washers

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2013, 09:41:24 pm »
Sex on legs!!! That's what I think every time I see it!!!
you need to get out more  >:(
It's a pole not a pole dancer  :-X
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britishwill

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2013, 10:30:10 pm »
Can you use a silicon spray?

Stephen Fox

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2013, 12:00:21 am »
We are having the adapters changed and trimmed down a little which will solve any sticking or tightness issues. As mentioned, it is sometimes a slight quirk in the manufacturing process, so by over compensating it should be eliminated.

In all honesty the QR on the Phoenix is for future products coming so it shouldn't pose too much of a problem at the moment as there is not much to swap it with!

Window Washers

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Re: Facelift v Gardiners pole review
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2013, 02:15:44 am »
Gardiners need to sort out the poor quality build despatch stage ( clamps losening not great) facelift need to add stop ends to compete with gardiners not to hard its a bit of tap (facelift oversight maybe ?)
From the video the end caps are they a nightmare , tbh gardiners when replacing they don'tx fit and fall off too, ordered twice I ended up cutting them up to fit ( bad batch maybe) but I gave up as waisting my time for a £2 item cost me over £20  wasted time. These hassles are remember ed not just by me.

The good thing Alex needs to work harder or facelift will catch him up.

If facelift sort out good pole hose they will be another step forward as Gardiner pole hose is not great.

Ian

P. s females on pole hose facelift it's the way.

All this is good for window cleaning I respect Alex, facelift have a little more work to do but the way they are going will catch up soon.


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