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Window Washers

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2013, 09:13:44 pm »
how do you wash off dirt off your hands Dave, or if you need to quickly rinse dirt off a sill ?

I would not recommend the gardiners way at all, its so backward you have to add a tap to the pole hose (sorry Alex)

I have to disagree with you Ian  :)

Of course everyone has their own method and if what you use suits you then that is good. However using a lightweight flow valve mounted on the pole hose is not a backward step it is the way forward!

They are very light and robust and can be used in many different ways. I personally do not have them in a holster preferring the freedom of working with it near my hand as in this video - http://youtu.be/cS51l4oY2mg

Used in this way it is fast, efficient, water saving and most of all very, very easy to use. They also last a very long time as they are never dragged across the ground - I usually get about 4 years+ out of a flow valve used in this way.
How do you wash your hands if needed  without connecting the pole Alex ?



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Alex Gardiner

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2013, 09:31:22 pm »
how do you wash off dirt off your hands Dave, or if you need to quickly rinse dirt off a sill ?

I would not recommend the gardiners way at all, its so backward you have to add a tap to the pole hose (sorry Alex)

I have to disagree with you Ian  :)

Of course everyone has their own method and if what you use suits you then that is good. However using a lightweight flow valve mounted on the pole hose is not a backward step it is the way forward!

They are very light and robust and can be used in many different ways. I personally do not have them in a holster preferring the freedom of working with it near my hand as in this video - http://youtu.be/cS51l4oY2mg

Used in this way it is fast, efficient, water saving and most of all very, very easy to use. They also last a very long time as they are never dragged across the ground - I usually get about 4 years+ out of a flow valve used in this way.
How do you wash your hands if needed  without connecting the pole Alex ?


A good question.

I always wear disposable nitrile gloves, but even these need washing off sometimes. When I need to do this I usually wash them off under the run out water from when I disconnect the hose from the side of the hose reel - this usually gives enough water to do the job.

If more water is needed, say for hosing the inside of the pole out after working in gritty areas, then I disconnect the pole hose from the pole side of the quick release flow valve (takes a moment with a push fit valve) and use this controlling the flow with the valve.


Window Washers

  • Posts: 9036
Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2013, 09:39:03 pm »
Good answer Alex ;)

Personally I do not ever disconnect the hosebfrm the reel

Both ways work I just disagree yours is the better way or I would be doing it.

Personal preference.

I do whoever think your poles are spot on :)
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2013, 09:47:15 pm »
I clean all my customers windows/frame this obviously includes vents. Give them a good clean on the 1st visit then clean EVERY time. NO PROBLEMS ever! BUT that might be the style of vents fitted to my customers. All windows are different.
Whta the problem with water pumping between upstairs windows? Just get a bigger van and tank lol

spudd

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2013, 10:33:19 pm »
Some good input there guys, so I take it all the guys using the inline tap on the 'pole' hose just have the standard rectus fittings on both hose and pole hose..

Also anybody had good experience with the rectus 21 compared to the rectus 27 any major pros and cons.


Dave Willis

Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2013, 10:40:07 pm »
Male on the end of the pole hose and female on your microbore or minibore. The female has a stop end so you can leave the reel full of water and pressurised even when the pole is disconnected. They do wear eventually just remember to renew both male and female when the time comes. A spot of wd 40 now and again helps. I normally fit a piece of hosepipe to the female end to stop it bouncing on the road so much. Better than having a tap flying up the road when you wind in. Could take someones eye out or kill a passing baby.  ;D

Window Washers

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2013, 10:42:36 pm »
Some good input there guys, so I take it all the guys using the inline tap on the 'pole' hose just have the standard rectus fittings on both hose and pole hose..

Also anybody had good experience with the rectus 21 compared to the rectus 27 any major pros and cons.


all the difference between Alex's way and the way I do it is I have female on pole hose with tap and he has female on hose reel hose and tap on pole hose with make fitting

If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

dd

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2013, 09:45:29 am »
how do you wash off dirt off your hands Dave, or if you need to quickly rinse dirt off a sill ?

I would not recommend the gardiners way at all, its so backward you have to add a tap to the pole hose (sorry Alex)

I have to disagree with you Ian  :)

Of course everyone has their own method and if what you use suits you then that is good. However using a lightweight flow valve mounted on the pole hose is not a backward step it is the way forward!

They are very light and robust and can be used in many different ways. I personally do not have them in a holster preferring the freedom of working with it near my hand as in this video - http://youtu.be/cS51l4oY2mg

Used in this way it is fast, efficient, water saving and most of all very, very easy to use. They also last a very long time as they are never dragged across the ground - I usually get about 4 years+ out of a flow valve used in this way.
Alex's way is the best IMO.

You do need to fit the JG stems on to the pole hose though to stop leeks, although I used the tap on a pole with Ionics orange pole hose recently and found the tap fits perfectly and is leek free without having to use the JG stems.

Alex probably gets 4 years from his taps because he only cleans windows 1 or 2 days a week.

R.C Property

  • Posts: 1599
Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2013, 09:53:58 am »
My taps are fixed to my poles and the hose from the van clicks straight on to that.

No holsters, no bending pipe, no round the neck, no dragging on floor, no trying to find it, no plastic getting broken, no fitting to protect tap,

Turns on and off with BOTH hands firmly on the pole, all it takes is a thumb to use it.

Cost:- £3 for all the parts,

Smudger

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2013, 10:53:38 am »
you use that spirally hose dont you ?

otherwise you need a loop with a fixed tap

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

R.C Property

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2013, 11:01:45 am »
you use that spirally hose dont you ?

otherwise you need a loop with a fixed tap

Darran

Yes I do use the lightweight (lighter than gardiners pole hose) compressed airline spiral hose
On my poles.
Last lot longer than any pole hose out there,

Smudger

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2013, 11:13:42 am »
thats the difference - most, if not every1 else uses straight hose either outside or inside the pole

i personally could not cope with all that dangly stuff wrapped around the pole

Darran

Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

R.C Property

  • Posts: 1599
Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2013, 11:28:09 am »
thats the difference - most, if not every1 else uses straight hose either outside or inside the pole

i personally could not cope with all that dangly stuff wrapped around the pole

Darran



You would be surprised its very easy to get on with,

SB Cleaning

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2013, 01:26:16 pm »
I have tried everything.....

Can't beat the Aquadapter  :)

SPE

Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2013, 06:53:16 pm »
Dont waste your money on airline connectors that last a couple of weeks before seizing up or gas valve taps that snap off.
I use one of these
http://www.gardena.com/uk/water-management/hose-connectors/hose-connector-with-control-valve-13-mm-1-2/
put it on a few inches of 1/2" hose then use a barbed reducer to attach to either mini or micro bore.
It gets dragged along the ground all the time, snagged even stood on.
think its about 2 years old now.
Plus its just a hoselock style connector so if it ever did fail, minimal downtime whilst working, a cheap replacement one is available everywhere.

Simon

R.C Property

  • Posts: 1599
Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2013, 06:59:29 pm »
Dont waste your money on airline connectors that last a couple of weeks before seizing up or gas valve taps that snap off.
I use one of these
http://www.gardena.com/uk/water-management/hose-connectors/hose-connector-with-control-valve-13-mm-1-2/
put it on a few inches of 1/2" hose then use a barbed reducer to attach to either mini or micro bore.
It gets dragged along the ground all the time, snagged even stood on.
think its about 2 years old now.
Plus its just a hoselock style connector so if it ever did fail, minimal downtime whilst working, a cheap replacement one is available everywhere.

Simon


All my are airline and 2years old, better quality than the plastic ones there, designed to with hold much high pressure so will out live any hoselock fittings and never seized at all.
My taps are not the gas ones but same design, and again 2years old with no snapping,

If you using that hozelock dose that mean your dragging garden hose size hose around with you?

SPE

Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2013, 07:31:33 pm »
Dont waste your money on airline connectors that last a couple of weeks before seizing up or gas valve taps that snap off.
I use one of these
http://www.gardena.com/uk/water-management/hose-connectors/hose-connector-with-control-valve-13-mm-1-2/
put it on a few inches of 1/2" hose then use a barbed reducer to attach to either mini or micro bore.
It gets dragged along the ground all the time, snagged even stood on.
think its about 2 years old now.
Plus its just a hoselock style connector so if it ever did fail, minimal downtime whilst working, a cheap replacement one is available everywhere.

Simon


All my are airline and 2years old, better quality than the plastic ones there, designed to with hold much high pressure so will out live any hoselock fittings and never seized at all.
My taps are not the gas ones but same design, and again 2years old with no snapping,

If you using that hozelock dose that mean your dragging garden hose size hose around with you?
My post was referring to the connectors and taps wfp suppliers sell. they are not wfp specific e.g. over priced air hose connectors and gas taps. I have tried them and they do not last for long.
I reverted back to basics and a "hoselock" style by gardena (superior to hoselock imho)

no, I dont "drag garden size hose around with me" , my post above explains how I adapted it to a reel of minibore.

Are you able to put a link to what you use ? it could help others.
Simon

R.C Property

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2013, 07:53:58 pm »
Dont waste your money on airline connectors that last a couple of weeks before seizing up or gas valve taps that snap off.
I use one of these
http://www.gardena.com/uk/water-management/hose-connectors/hose-connector-with-control-valve-13-mm-1-2/
put it on a few inches of 1/2" hose then use a barbed reducer to attach to either mini or micro bore.
It gets dragged along the ground all the time, snagged even stood on.
think its about 2 years old now.
Plus its just a hoselock style connector so if it ever did fail, minimal downtime whilst working, a cheap replacement one is available everywhere.

Simon


All my are airline and 2years old, better quality than the plastic ones there, designed to with hold much high pressure so will out live any hoselock fittings and never seized at all.
My taps are not the gas ones but same design, and again 2years old with no snapping,

If you using that hozelock dose that mean your dragging garden hose size hose around with you?
My post was referring to the connectors and taps wfp suppliers sell. they are not wfp specific e.g. over priced air hose connectors and gas taps. I have tried them and they do not last for long.
I reverted back to basics and a "hoselock" style by gardena (superior to hoselock imho)

no, I dont "drag garden size hose around with me" , my post above explains how I adapted it to a reel of minibore.

Are you able to put a link to what you use ? it could help others.
Simon

Oh right yer they are over priced for what they are!

I'll have to get links up when I get back from being away,

Viktor

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2013, 03:27:44 pm »
how do you wash off dirt off your hands Dave, or if you need to quickly rinse dirt off a sill ?

I would not recommend the gardiners way at all, its so backward you have to add a tap to the pole hose (sorry Alex)

I have to disagree with you Ian  :)

Of course everyone has their own method and if what you use suits you then that is good. However using a lightweight flow valve mounted on the pole hose is not a backward step it is the way forward!

They are very light and robust and can be used in many different ways. I personally do not have them in a holster preferring the freedom of working with it near my hand as in this video - http://youtu.be/cS51l4oY2mg

Used in this way it is fast, efficient, water saving and most of all very, very easy to use. They also last a very long time as they are never dragged across the ground - I usually get about 4 years+ out of a flow valve used in this way.

I have to support this since I have had my tap (as shown in the video) already fitted on my pole hose from Gardiner. Had it for two years and and it's about time to change it (thought still dose the job) and mind you I never never mind it dragging on the ground, dropping it and abusing in any other way as it's just a control valve costing £10 and if it lasted me 2 years, why would I be bothered.
And since it is not on my reel hose, I am not dragging it on the ground while winding my hose.   

Window Washers

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Re: What's everyone's choice of hose TAPS???
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2013, 07:10:41 am »
how do you wash off dirt off your hands Dave, or if you need to quickly rinse dirt off a sill ?

I would not recommend the gardiners way at all, its so backward you have to add a tap to the pole hose (sorry Alex)

I have to disagree with you Ian  :)

Of course everyone has their own method and if what you use suits you then that is good. However using a lightweight flow valve mounted on the pole hose is not a backward step it is the way forward!

They are very light and robust and can be used in many different ways. I personally do not have them in a holster preferring the freedom of working with it near my hand as in this video - http://youtu.be/cS51l4oY2mg

Used in this way it is fast, efficient, water saving and most of all very, very easy to use. They also last a very long time as they are never dragged across the ground - I usually get about 4 years+ out of a flow valve used in this way.

I have to support this since I have had my tap (as shown in the video) already fitted on my pole hose from Gardiner. Had it for two years and and it's about time to change it (thought still dose the job) and mind you I never never mind it dragging on the ground, dropping it and abusing in any other way as it's just a control valve costing £10 and if it lasted me 2 years, why would I be bothered.
And since it is not on my reel hose, I am not dragging it on the ground while winding my hose.   
thats cool with me each to thier own. I don't drag my tap along the ground
Taps last a lot longer doing this.
Explaining my way to people face makes sence to them, I'm crap at writing tbh to explain why I know my way works better for me
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)