[spudd]

Right guys, I'm currently running 2 reel's 8mm mini bore hose with taps on the end which then connects to the rectus 21 fittings on the pole hose

Works alright until the taps decide to break which then makes it hard to turn taps on and off etc and eventually just corrode away..

I'm yet to find the taps that can stand up to the challenge of being wound in day in day out/ tried gardiners, cleaning warehouse etc and just not really up to grade IMO!

Hope ain't everyone confused anyone to much!! I'm not 100% on how to post pics but all input and pictures are welcome to save confusion

Happy new years all
Spikey

[Michael Peterson]

they way you are using them i have a couple of suggestions :-)

firstly, the taps that drap across the ground will always break, if you must use these, carry them back in your hand to the van and then real in, pure freedom do one with a little bit of protection or you can use a tennis ball.

or you could use the gardeners tap on your pole hose and have it round you neck or across your palm, this way you dont have to bend down all the time.

my prefer d method after trying both the above is to use an aqua-dapter they really are a great bit of kit, save you loads of time and water, i tried pinching the hose to stop the flow before but still prefer the aqua-dapter, it has probably been my best purchase in recent years, keep in mind if you are using gardeners quick release you will have to buy a tread adapter for about £4

[Smudger]

Get AD's mate - fab items to use

Darran

[Steve Sed]

What I have discovered is the best approach (for me) is female to male pole hose on the end of minibore, then gas style tap from Pure Freedom strapped to pole. But every one is different.

[spudd]

they way you are using them i have a couple of suggestions :-)

firstly, the taps that drap across the ground will always break, if you must use these, carry them back in your hand to the van and then real in, pure freedom do one with a little bit of protection or you can use a tennis ball.

or you could use the gardeners tap on your pole hose and have it round you neck or across your palm, this way you dont have to bend down all the time.

my prefer d method after trying both the above is to use an aqua-dapter they really are a great bit of kit, save you loads of time and water, i tried pinching the hose to stop the flow before but still prefer the aqua-dapter, it has probably been my best purchase in recent years, keep in mind if you are using gardeners quick release you will have to buy a tread adapter for about £4

Forgot to mention pole hoses have ball protectors on and I currently have 6 poles in my van so AD would add up to a fair chunk considering

[Gary f]

Good tip to extend life of ez connectors is spray pfe spray on sliding part of connectors frees it up.

[Window Washers]

best way to extend the life of rectus 21 fittings is not to disconnect them.

8mm hose with tap and male rectus on end (able to control water if you need to wash hands) female rectus 21 on end of pole.

the taps with red handles are rubbish they break. IMO the black handled rubber ones are by far the best, some suppliers sell cheap copys these are also rubbish.

someone has already said walk back to van with tap in hand place it down when you reel in (no need to disconnect) this not only saves time it saves wasted money

problem having male on pole hose (water runs out) meaning everytime you start a job you waste time waiting for water to get up the pole again (this works out very expensive over a year) I did try this way listening to some people on here quickly to change back to the way that is best for making money.

the best advice is dont disconnect they last about 5 times longer.

protecta balls and that black thing from purefreedom is an accessory that costs you money with no benifit imo of course (I have used both several times trying to get on with them) they just slow you down.

[Dave Willis]

Just do it the Gardiners way. Push fit tap on pole hose and female rectus on microbore.
No need for an Aquadapter the tap does exactly the same thing. Stick it in a holster and it's only an inch or two away from your thumb. You can either disconnect or leave connected. Taps can be changed in two seconds.
Been working like it since 2007 no problems. No tap bouncing along the road, no leaks and no problems. Taps last for ages because they are on your belt and not the ground.
Gas taps are so last year - olives and inserts - dump them.

[scottt24]

No taps for me, they're just something else to break
I'm a hose pincher

[Window Washers]

Just do it the Gardiners way. Push fit tap on pole hose and female rectus on microbore.
No need for an Aquadapter the tap does exactly the same thing. Stick it in a holster and it's only an inch or two away from your thumb. You can either disconnect or leave connected. Taps can be changed in two seconds.
Been working like it since 2007 no problems. No tap bouncing along the road, no leaks and no problems. Taps last for ages because they are on your belt and not the ground.
Gas taps are so last year - olives and inserts - dump them.

how do you wash off dirt off your hands Dave, or if you need to quickly rinse dirt off a sill ?

I would not recommend the gardiners way at all, its so backward you have to add a tap to the pole hose (sorry Alex)

[Aqua-dapter]

Hi spikey,

Forgot to mention pole hoses have ball protectors on and I currently have 6 poles in my van so AD would add up to a fair chunk

You don't have to put one on every pole to begin with, and we do have a money back satisfaction guarantee so you could try one out to see if it suits you.

They are an investment, but designed to pay you back quickly and be more convenient (however many poles you put one on).

We also have an alternative to Rectus 21 connectors "Quick Connect", that customers tell us last longer (and no need to swap both connectors at the same time as is recommended with the Rectus 21 style connectors).  If you put a protecta ball either side of the connection it raises it off the floor, so no part of it drags/wears or sits in water, but as you probably know they're more likely to snag.

You also keep the water in the hose with an Aqua-dapter in the off position when disconnecting, even with the male hosetail on the pole hose, as there is a 'straw effect' keeping the water in the hose.

Paul

[steven ainger]

Just do it the Gardiners way. Push fit tap on pole hose and female rectus on microbore.
No need for an Aquadapter the tap does exactly the same thing. Stick it in a holster and it's only an inch or two away from your thumb. You can either disconnect or leave connected. Taps can be changed in two seconds.
Been working like it since 2007 no problems. No tap bouncing along the road, no leaks and no problems. Taps last for ages because they are on your belt and not the ground.
Gas taps are so last year - olives and inserts - dump them.

I agree with Dave, except instead of using a holster i have a key hasp on the end of my microbore and a caribina on my belt loop, the key hasp clips onto the caribina in a second so its easy to detatch.
Ive tried all the other taps & aquadapter & the push fit tape on the pole hose is the best by far imo.

[Dave Willis]

Just do it the Gardiners way. Push fit tap on pole hose and female rectus on microbore.
No need for an Aquadapter the tap does exactly the same thing. Stick it in a holster and it's only an inch or two away from your thumb. You can either disconnect or leave connected. Taps can be changed in two seconds.
Been working like it since 2007 no problems. No tap bouncing along the road, no leaks and no problems. Taps last for ages because they are on your belt and not the ground.
Gas taps are so last year - olives and inserts - dump them.

how do you wash off dirt off your hands Dave, or if you need to quickly rinse dirt off a sill ?

I would not recommend the gardiners way at all, its so backward you have to add a tap to the pole hose (sorry Alex)

  put your hands under the brush and open the tap. Or the other way round.

Same with the sill - just flick the valve open, same between windows. £9 or £60? You know it makes sense.

[Dave Turley]

Just do it the Gardiners way. Push fit tap on pole hose and female rectus on microbore.
No need for an Aquadapter the tap does exactly the same thing. Stick it in a holster and it's only an inch or two away from your thumb. You can either disconnect or leave connected. Taps can be changed in two seconds.
Been working like it since 2007 no problems. No tap bouncing along the road, no leaks and no problems. Taps last for ages because they are on your belt and not the ground.
Gas taps are so last year - olives and inserts - dump them.

It's the Gardiners way for me too but I don't like being attached via a holster.

I just drape the end of the main hose around my neck.

It takes a few days to get used to but the tap is nice and to hand and I've been using this method for around six years.

[Window Washers]

Just do it the Gardiners way. Push fit tap on pole hose and female rectus on microbore.
No need for an Aquadapter the tap does exactly the same thing. Stick it in a holster and it's only an inch or two away from your thumb. You can either disconnect or leave connected. Taps can be changed in two seconds.
Been working like it since 2007 no problems. No tap bouncing along the road, no leaks and no problems. Taps last for ages because they are on your belt and not the ground.
Gas taps are so last year - olives and inserts - dump them.

how do you wash off dirt off your hands Dave, or if you need to quickly rinse dirt off a sill ?

I would not recommend the gardiners way at all, its so backward you have to add a tap to the pole hose (sorry Alex)

  put your hands under the brush and open the tap. Or the other way round.

Same with the sill - just flick the valve open, same between windows. £9 or £60? You know it makes sense.

you missed my point, we are all different, your way make no sence to me at all, I have tried it, holster I did years ago, thats going to cause many bad hips when older, and round the neck (crazyness if someone nicks your van your dead by strangling  )

[Dave Willis]

Are you nuts? How can a valve that weighs next to nothing give you bad hips? How many bad hips can you get?
I'm more likely to get a bad back carrying my wallet in my pocket.  

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/push-fit-quick-fit-pole-control-valve.html

http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/advanced_search_result.html?y=22&x=46&keyword=holster&wizid=p24ccjg0cma4gq6it5tkekf6e3&search_in_description=1

Honestly Ian, I do worry about you sometimes.

[Alex Gardiner]

how do you wash off dirt off your hands Dave, or if you need to quickly rinse dirt off a sill ?

I would not recommend the gardiners way at all, its so backward you have to add a tap to the pole hose (sorry Alex)

I have to disagree with you Ian 

Of course everyone has their own method and if what you use suits you then that is good. However using a lightweight flow valve mounted on the pole hose is not a backward step it is the way forward!

They are very light and robust and can be used in many different ways. I personally do not have them in a holster preferring the freedom of working with it near my hand as in this video - http://youtu.be/cS51l4oY2mg

Used in this way it is fast, efficient, water saving and most of all very, very easy to use. They also last a very long time as they are never dragged across the ground - I usually get about 4 years+ out of a flow valve used in this way.

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

Same valve as Alex but I fit mine at the top of my pole just at the exit point of the resi neck. Tryed an aquadapter but too HEAVY IMO(and i am not a weak small lad.Started my wfp work with a brodex and vikan sill brush ) Why pay for light weight poles and brushed then add weight IMO. Yes I know you have to have your pole retracted using it my way but why work with loops, and hip belts?? Valve is nice and light and does not get dropped, dragged or abused. Happy days.
p.s you use around 1ltr extra per average 3 bed detached house using it my way compared to a AD I did the test's for myself. Clean 20 houses thats only 20 ltr's. If you cant spare that, go back to trad'in lol

[Dave Willis]

What happens when you get near an air vent - you can't turn it off 
All different i suppose (I can't work the way Alex does by the way  )

[Smudger]

I used to have mine like Kent - problem is forgetting to turn ot only to find you've extended it 30 ft!
(+ the waters running while raising and lowering )

Darran