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john classic

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citroen berlingo owners
« on: January 01, 2013, 01:27:48 pm »
happy new year to everyone
                                             ive just bought a berlingo 800kg payload for my son to use as a starter van  we intend fitting a 350 litre flat tank behind the front seats side ways across the van  . can anyone put any pics or give us some advice how to fit  the tank frame.  having a quick look under the van there doesnt appear to be an easy way to bolt it throgh the floor without moving diesel tank etc what have other people done  used lashing eyes and heavy duty straps ? thanks

Spruce

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Re: citroen berlingo owners
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2013, 02:31:53 pm »
The normal procedure is to drop the fuel tank.

We fitted a 500 litre tank into my sons 800 lx Peugeot Partner. It was wide enough to 'straddle' the diesel tank.

The front bolts can be fitted to the plate that covers the footwells in the Multispace and can be reach from behind the seats. The LX passenger seat folds forward but if you have the L then you will probably have to remove the passenger seat to gain access. We used spreader plates under the floor.

With the 500 litre tank the rear securing bolt holes are behind the tank frame crossmember so a long spreader bar can be fitted underneath with some arrangement to make this stronger by securing it to the 'chassis' boxing.

If the tank frame is a solid and the tank fits inside it, then the sides of the frame will stop the tank sliding left or right whilst turning corners.
To add a bit of extra support we drilled a couple of holes into the floor above the tank (carefully - there is a gap between the diesel tank and the floor) and fitted nutserts. We used short bolts into these nutserts.

There is a sketch on this thread

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=113665.0

Finished van

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=41726.0
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Halfadaylee

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Re: citroen berlingo owners
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2013, 06:36:50 pm »
happy new year to everyone
                                             ive just bought a berlingo 800kg payload for my son to use as a starter van  we intend fitting a 350 litre flat tank behind the front seats side ways across the van  . can anyone put any pics or give us some advice how to fit  the tank frame.  having a quick look under the van there doesnt appear to be an easy way to bolt it throgh the floor without moving diesel tank etc what have other people done  used lashing eyes and heavy duty straps ? thanks

Hey John, have you turfed the lad out of your van then?
When I had mine I got another ladder rack (the thing that stops the load hitting the driver) from a scrap yard and fitted it behind the passenger seat.
I then used two heavy duty ratchet straps in a criss cross to secure a 250 up right tank. I was never crash tested but I felt it was secure enough
Decent vans for small tanks.
Art

Spruce

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Re: citroen berlingo owners
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2013, 06:44:21 pm »
Those ladder racks won't stop anything in an accident - they just bend unfortunately.

If you can find an original factory fit lower steel bulkhead and upper mesh second hand from a scrapyard in good condition with bolts and brackets, they are worth the investment - very solid.

I've looked on Ebay but there isn't anything at the moment. If you look at the pictures I put up you will see what they look like. The other stuff on Ebay is rubbish.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

john classic

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Re: citroen berlingo owners
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2013, 08:11:40 pm »
THANKS  SPRUCE
                            VERY INFORMATIVE i think i may go for an upright tank after seeing your pics . i already had a 350 flat i bought last year of another guy when he upgraded, so theres a 350 flat tank for sale if any ones interested .
    by the way where did you have the tank frame made
                          regards john
       ps
               half a day lee   
 adam keeps telling me  i`m past it and he`s the best  so he is going to  show us ... watch this space .

Spruce

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Re: citroen berlingo owners
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2013, 08:38:44 pm »
THANKS  SPRUCE
                            VERY INFORMATIVE i think i may go for an upright tank after seeing your pics . i already had a 350 flat i bought last year of another guy when he upgraded, so theres a 350 flat tank for sale if any ones interested .
    by the way where did you have the tank frame made
                          regards john
       ps
               half a day lee   
 adam keeps telling me  i`m past it and he`s the best  so he is going to  show us ... watch this space .


I didn't have a lower tank frame on his van. I have just used the frame to hold it in place. If I was to redo it, I would weld up a lower frame out of angle iron as it would be easier in the long run.

I did however weld up a frame for my son in laws Transit Connect when we fitted a 500 litre tank into that. I used 40 x 40 x 5mm angle iron as a base with two 25 x 5mm mild steel flat bars bent to the shape of the tank and welded to the angle iron frame.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=139067.0

Sorry, but you can't see the frame in any of the pictures, but it is there.

We did the same to his van as we did to the Peugeot Partner. The front of the tank frame is secured by bolts and spreader plates accessable from inside the cab as with the peugeot. The rear of the tank frame is just behind the diesel tank so were able the secure the tank to the floor with spreader plates underneath as we did with the Peugeot. I again welded a couple of lugs to the side of the frame and used nutserts and bolts to secure these. As with the Peugeot there is a space between the floor and the top of the diesel tank. I put these nutserts on the ridge of the floor which gives a little more clearance for the bolts to protrude a little.

With regard to Son in Laws van, he did make it easier by deciding that he wanted the tank length ways rather than width ways. With both vans space is a problem and a slx22 will only go in the LWB Connect at an angle with the brush folded forward. The only other option was to cut a hole in the bulkhead so the brush handle could protrude into the cabin area above his head.

Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Spruce

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Re: citroen berlingo owners
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2013, 09:03:44 pm »
Just another point.

My son in law works fast and has his flow rate up higher than we do. In the summer he can polish off most of his 500 litres of water. He probably does twice the amount of work I can in a day.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

john classic

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Re: citroen berlingo owners
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 05:43:20 pm »
thanks spruce
                      just sold 350 flat and orderd 350 upright. the diagram is great
                             regards john