[Ian101]

As title really ... looking to get into hot for all year round use next year but do shurflo's have a max operating temperture ?

[paul saunders]

I'm sure I read somewhere that it was 65c, it might even say it on the pump its self.

[Mist A Bit]

what sort of system are you thinking of using as most heat the water after the pump.

[R.C Property]

i think i read somewhere that its only 40c

[Ian101]

what sort of system are you thinking of using as most heat the water after the pump.

aha thats true .... doh !

[Spruce]

77 C is max according to this

I would also consider that if the pump is handling hot water, it will get/run hotter as the hot water won't do anything to help the cooling side of it. 

[R.C Property]

what sort of system are you thinking of using as most heat the water after the pump.

aha thats true .... doh !

good question though as most heat the water up in the tank!

 The shurflo 8000 series diaphram pump can take upto 77c!

[R.C Property]

77 C is max according to this

what was i saying about great minds! lol you beat me to posting it! lol

[Ian101]

cheers chaps !

[Spruce]

77 C is max according to this

what was i saying about great minds! lol you beat me to posting it! lol

I'm peddling as fast as I can to keep up 

[R.C Property]

77 C is max according to this

what was i saying about great minds! lol you beat me to posting it! lol

I'm peddling as fast as I can to keep up 

lol keep going! all up hill from now on! lol

[Window Washers]

77 C is max according to this

I would also consider that if the pump is handling hot water, it will get/run hotter as the hot water won't do anything to help the cooling side of it. 

if your running at 77c you will get burnt 

[R.C Property]

77 C is max according to this

I would also consider that if the pump is handling hot water, it will get/run hotter as the hot water won't do anything to help the cooling side of it. 

if your running at 77c you will get burnt 

true, but these pumps are not just for window cleaning, they are used on other things too.

 

[Window Washers]

Read this guys if your thinking of heating water:

Scalding occurs well below the boiling point of water. Temperatures above 45deg.C can cause serious injury very quickly. With water at 70 deg.C, partial thickness injuries occur in well under 1 second, and full thickness burns in approximately 10 seconds. At 60 deg.C, similar injuries occur in approximately 7 seconds (partial), and 90 seconds (full thickness).

read the full details on this site:
http://www.plumbingpages.com/featurepages/tmvaHome.cfm

I can see a mile away someone contracting legionella too. hopefully its no one from here

[R.C Property]

Read this guys if your thinking of heating water:

Scalding occurs well below the boiling point of water. Temperatures above 45deg.C can cause serious injury very quickly. With water at 70 deg.C, partial thickness injuries occur in well under 1 second, and full thickness burns in approximately 10 seconds. At 60 deg.C, similar injuries occur in approximately 7 seconds (partial), and 90 seconds (full thickness).

read the full details on this site:
http://www.plumbingpages.com/featurepages/tmvaHome.cfm

I can see a mile away someone contracting legionella too. hopefully its no one from here

if you are that worried about the water, how about the heater itself! with that burning away that gets really hot and can cause major burns too!

[Spruce]

77 C is max according to this

what was i saying about great minds! lol you beat me to posting it! lol

I'm peddling as fast as I can to keep up 

lol keep going! all up hill from now on! lol

I was hoping we had just about reached the top and it would be all downhill from now on   Shucks!

I found this video of SunShines very interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehSofVX3gqE

I like the idea of heating a small tank (125l) and topping it up as required. Yes it isn't as efficient as we would like (compared to 'on demand heating' ) but overall I like the concept of heating a smaller tank. He would be passing hot water through his shurflo pump. As he tries to maintain his tank temperature at 25C his pump may have to pump a higher temperature than that at times, but probably not that much higher as he is drawing colder water from the tank, pumping it through his heater and back out to the tank.

I think Gold does the same thing, although he has 2 seperate 250l tanks, heats one with an immersion heater and has cold in the other. I have thought about this for a bit with my setup, although I would probably have to get rid of the 650 litre tank for something smaller. I already have a 125 litre tank 'lying around' doing nothing.

I also have a Webasto diesel heater awaiting fitment. The other thought would be to use the smaller 125 litre tank as a large storage tank, but to pump the hot water from the boiler to a heat exchanger for the brush and then onto the tank which would slowly warm that up.

The heat exchanger is fitted with a thermostatic valve which can be set at 36 - 42c so the water to the brush won't be very hot. To me that's fine, I want more supple hoses in the winter. This should help with my Tourette's syndrome which I suffer from mainly in the winter.  

[Window Washers]

77 C is max according to this

what was i saying about great minds! lol you beat me to posting it! lol

I'm peddling as fast as I can to keep up 

lol keep going! all up hill from now on! lol

I was hoping we had just about reached the top and it would be all downhill from now on   Shucks!

I found this video of SunShines very interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehSofVX3gqE

I like the idea of heating a small tank (125l) and topping it up as required. Yes it isn't as efficient as we would like (compared to 'on demand heating' ) but overall I like the concept of heating a smaller tank. He would be passing hot water through his shurflo pump. As he tries to maintain his tank temperature at 25C his pump may have to pump a higher temperature than that at times, but probably not that much higher as he is drawing colder water from the tank, pumping it through his heater and back out to the tank.

I think Gold does the same thing, although he has 2 seperate 250l tanks, heats one with an immersion heater and has cold in the other. I have thought about this for a bit with my setup, although I would probably have to get rid of the 650 litre tank for something smaller. I already have a 125 litre tank 'lying around' doing nothing.

I also have a Webasto diesel heater awaiting fitment. The other thought would be to use the smaller 125 litre tank as a large storage tank, but to pump the hot water from the boiler to a heat exchanger for the brush and then onto the tank which would slowly warm that up.

The heat exchanger is fitted with a thermostatic valve which can be set at 36 - 42c so the water to the brush won't be very hot. To me that's fine, I want more supple hoses in the winter. This should help with my Tourette's syndrome which I suffer from mainly in the winter. 

[SunShineCleaning]

77 C is max according to this

what was i saying about great minds! lol you beat me to posting it! lol

I'm peddling as fast as I can to keep up 

lol keep going! all up hill from now on! lol

I was hoping we had just about reached the top and it would be all downhill from now on   Shucks!

I found this video of SunShines very interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehSofVX3gqE

I like the idea of heating a small tank (125l) and topping it up as required. Yes it isn't as efficient as we would like (compared to 'on demand heating' ) but overall I like the concept of heating a smaller tank. He would be passing hot water through his shurflo pump. As he tries to maintain his tank temperature at 25C his pump may have to pump a higher temperature than that at times, but probably not that much higher as he is drawing colder water from the tank, pumping it through his heater and back out to the tank.

I think Gold does the same thing, although he has 2 seperate 250l tanks, heats one with an immersion heater and has cold in the other. I have thought about this for a bit with my setup, although I would probably have to get rid of the 650 litre tank for something smaller. I already have a 125 litre tank 'lying around' doing nothing.

I also have a Webasto diesel heater awaiting fitment. The other thought would be to use the smaller 125 litre tank as a large storage tank, but to pump the hot water from the boiler to a heat exchanger for the brush and then onto the tank which would slowly warm that up.

The heat exchanger is fitted with a thermostatic valve which can be set at 36 - 42c so the water to the brush won't be very hot. To me that's fine, I want more supple hoses in the winter. This should help with my Tourette's syndrome which I suffer from mainly in the winter.  

I have had the water up to 60 degrees but dont realy see the point. 20 degrees at the brush in winter works well enough. Plus as it circulates the water going through the heater is steadily gettig hotter so I believe it is quite efficient. I use about £25 worth of gas in winter but rarely use it through summer.

[Spruce]

Now I have seen your setup in action, I have really warmed to your idea as a workable solution for me.

Thank you for making this video and sharing it with us. It's much appreciated.

[SunShineCleaning]

Now I have seen your setup in action, I have really warmed to your idea as a workable solution for me.

Thank you for making this video and sharing it with us. It's much appreciated.

It's no problem, like I have said before many DIY setup's evolve over time. It wont suit everybody.