[roundbuilder]

Hello Mike,
 
It was great speaking to you and as a follow-up on our call I wanted to send over the information discussed, please feel free to ask for any further information.
 
As you are interested in distributing within Blackheath, please see the demographic area map for SE3 attached. This map shows  how we build our distribution areas and it shows the number of the residential delivery addresses on the right-hand side of the document. We use the Geoplan software for our maps and, as it counts the letterboxes, it gives a more accurate number of the delivery addresses and it’s also updated every three to six months.  Please let me know if you would like to see any other maps.
 
January is a great time to and so please book your date as soon as you can as the calendar is already filling up for January. As you would like to distribute in Blackheath I would recommend expanding your area because there are only 13,893 residential delivery addresses in SE3 and you were interested in distributing 50,000 leaflets. You could expand to surrounding areas, and you could also expand to other areas in London.
 
We may not be the cheapest leaflet distribution company but we’re constantly improving our service and invest heavily in the service we provide. For instance we’ve just introduced GPS tracking for all of our residential delivery joggers and supervisors, as well as iPads for our supervisors to enable us to track the joggers in real-time, down to the door number. We’ve also retained every customer we’ve taken on, and we’re the biggest and fastest growing leaflet distribution company in the UK. We plough a lot resource back into our distribution service and are honest with our clients about the cost of carrying out distributions without cutting corners. In short we provide a much higher level of service than other leaflet distribution companies.
 
As you  are interested in distributing 50,000 leaflets, the cost for this would be £2,500 + VAT. This distribution could be completed in one day with 5 teams of 8 joggers and a non-distributing supervisor for each team (5 supervisors). Please let me know if you’d like to break the distribution up over more than one day, this wouldn’t increase the cost of your distribution.
 
Standard Residential Distribution Quote
All our distributions are solus and this means that no other companies media will be distributed along with yours.
Leaflets                                Standard Price
1,250                     -              £100 + VAT
2,500                     -              £200 + VAT
3,750                     -              £250 + VAT
5,000                     -              £300 + VAT                          
6,250                     -              £350 + VAT
7,500                     -              £400 + VAT
8,750                     -              £450 + VAT
10,000                   -              £500 + VAT  
50,000                   -              £2,500 + VAT
Each additional increment of 10k (above 10K) is charged at £500 + VAT.
                        
We also offer print related services in the form of a print quote beating business and we are able to beat most of the quotes in the industry. Print runs take seven working days (or five working days when using accelerated delivery at an extra cost) and we would need cleared payment before being able to proceed with print runs.  We also provide leaflet design services with an approximate turn-around time of two to five working days.
 
Please feel free to click on the link below to see our customer response at the independent ratings website Free Index (we are currently ranked number 1 out of over 500 leaflet distribution companies): http://www.freeindex.co.uk/profile%28jog-post-ltd%29_196180.htm.
 
You can see our promotional video by clicking on the link below: www.Jogpost.co.uk.
 
Feel free to get back to me with any questions at all, I would be more than happy to help.
 
Best regards,
 
Mbali Madi
Account Manager

Unit 7
River Brent Business Park
Trumpers Way
Hanwell
London
W7 2QA
www.jogpost.co.uk
T: +44(0)20 7731 8994
 
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[Lee Pryor]

Hold on hold on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why dont you just go on gum tree and employ a canvasser and get way more work thats more compact!?? 

[roundbuilder]

They do seem verey professional and do all the research with percentages of houses, flats etc.
i have never leafleted myself before and was planning on doing it myself with my mrs, daughter and workers.
jogpost can do it all in 1 go same day for £2500+vat or i can do it for next to nothing but my time time.

guys who have done there own leaflets how many can you realisticly drop in a day per man/woman/kid.

Just trying to weigh it all up if worth it or not just to get it all done in 1 day.

[roundbuilder]

Hold on hold on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why dont you just go on gum tree and employ a canvasser and get way more work thats more compact!??  

Lee i have already done that part now i want to fill in the gaps even more.
My whole business has been built from canvassers. Im using your online advice to give it a go. Its a shame you cant agree with me that canvassing is the king for building domestic window cleaning work up.

[Crystal-clear]

this is what im on about 50k in one bloody day ,,, m8t each person can do say 600 at a stedy pace, sometimes 800 and im talking constant pace 2 of you would do it say 2 months with the odd day off here and there maybe 5 days a week 2 months, or for £2,5k+vat 1 day saves you 2 months, whats 2 months of your time worth :?

[Moderator David@stives]

It seems fishy to me

Do you honestly think they will have 45 people in one town in one day delivering your leaflets all for £2500.

That does not sound truth, or a substainable business model.

Most likely to be poop

[roundbuilder]

this is what im on about 50k in one bloody day ,,, m8t each person can do say 600 at a stedy pace, sometimes 800 and im talking constant pace 2 of you would do it say 2 months with the odd day off here and there maybe 5 days a week 2 months, or for £2,5k+vat 1 day saves you 2 months, whats 2 months of your time worth :?

i think i will just wait a few months of doing the sold boards to get an extra 50 customers.
Ill get 50000 leaflets made up still to use when canvassing next round in new year for the houses where no one is in. That way im getting best of both worlds and wont be disapointed if next to no jobs come from it.

I would like to know your secret lee  to be hitting 22k a month with just 2 vans. I have done all the maths with what i can achieve by working like a blue arse fly on my 2 rounds but i dont think there is enough hours in a day. 11k a month per van without commercial is nearly double me and i do early hours commercial work which also is well priced. In fact 1 of your vans does just short of 2 of mine in a month. How have you managed to get £550 a day per van from leaflet drop campaigns coz you must have to move van 40 odd times a day unless your a erage house price is £40 odd. what is your average house price/jobs done per day mine is £10 fronts £15-20 f+b so say £15. I want to get to your level but cant for the life of me work out how i can manage it even if i use 2 men in a van.

[Moderator David@stives]

Also each jogger has a tracker device.

so thats £55.00 per man per day
40 trackers
Travelling costs
Admin

Where do they make there profit ?

[roundbuilder]

Also each jogger has a tracker device.

so thats £55.00 per man per day
40 trackers
Travelling costs
Admin

Where do they make there profit ?

Thats a valid point there. Unless they work round the clock with endless contracts it cant be that great for them.

[CLEANCARE WC]

It seems fishy to me

Do you honestly think they will have 45 people in one town in one day delivering your leaflets all for £2500.

That does not sound truth, or a substainable business model.

Most likely to be poop

exactly what i thought! 45 people that 2.5k will be spent on wages and that would only give them £55 each! nothing left in it for jog post...something isnt right.

[Crystal-clear]

Also each jogger has a tracker device.

so thats £55.00 per man per day
40 trackers
Travelling costs
Admin

Where do they make there profit ?

my father saw them in action monday they did a 5k leaflet drop for my brothers pc shopcost him £300+vat just as micks email says his words were "they were very good" and my old man isnt sold things easy!

[robertphil]

leaflet lads n lasses come n go like the wind.  its a hard slog, harder than cleaning windows  and will burn you out , if they can skive they will
  

[roundbuilder]

Dont forget though they JOG which would speed it up by 50%.

[Crystal-clear]

this is what im on about 50k in one bloody day ,,, m8t each person can do say 600 at a stedy pace, sometimes 800 and im talking constant pace 2 of you would do it say 2 months with the odd day off here and there maybe 5 days a week 2 months, or for £2,5k+vat 1 day saves you 2 months, whats 2 months of your time worth :?

i think i will just wait a few months of doing the sold boards to get an extra 50 customers.
Ill get 50000 leaflets made up still to use when canvassing next round in new year for the houses where no one is in. That way im getting best of both worlds and wont be disapointed if next to no jobs come from it.

I would like to know your secret lee  to be hitting 22k a month with just 2 vans. I have done all the maths with what i can achieve by working like a blue arse fly on my 2 rounds but i dont think there is enough hours in a day. 11k a month per van without commercial is nearly double me and i do early hours commercial work which also is well priced. In fact 1 of your vans does just short of 2 of mine in a month. How have you managed to get £550 a day per van from leaflet drop campaigns coz you must have to move van 40 odd times a day unless your a erage house price is £40 odd. what is your average house price/jobs done per day mine is £10 fronts £15-20 f+b so say £15. I want to get to your level but cant for the life of me work out how i can manage it even if i use 2 men in a van.

Its all about non compact work mate, you can charge what you like sometimes an extra 25% of the going rate thats how day rates add up over the day also mick, lees does 6-12 weeks so that bumps it up another 25% do you do monthlys cos on monthlys i find sometimes the price needs to be right, but when you are pricing up 12 weekly work yea it means you need 3x more work but when you get there the customer is prepared to pay you 2x he monthly rate just to have you less times a year its nuts again that adds up to the day rate!

this is the thing some people dont see the benifit of non compact work
also next door cant mess up your raving customer

For example a £15 house you could charge £20 but if you had 3 in a row its could happen that one of the 3 doesnt wana pay more then £12 talks to the other 2 and before you know it you take a pay cut or walk,

actually recelty i was cleaning a£12 front next door comes out so £24 next time another one comes out they all know each other , and it becomes £36 so i turn up again smiley happy only to be told that they feel they should be paying less as i have 3 in a row had to choose between £8.50 each so back down to £25 , took the offer cos it was still worth it but still you see what im trying to get at also with compact work if sally at number one has a go at you for water on windows you can bet your bottom quid that marry at number 3 all of a sudden wants to cancel,

so by having work spred around i think its a benifit not a disadvantage swings in round abouts too i guess i do have 4 in a row full houses and they been sweet for 2 years one of them has always been at brinking point and im dreading her canceling then next door asking why,,, lol

[Dani J]

Also each jogger has a tracker device.

so thats £55.00 per man per day
40 trackers
Travelling costs
Admin

Where do they make there profit ?

Maybe they are doing some other companies leaflets at the same time ? this way might cover their costs and some profit ?

[Dani J]

this is what im on about 50k in one bloody day ,,, m8t each person can do say 600 at a stedy pace, sometimes 800 and im talking constant pace 2 of you would do it say 2 months with the odd day off here and there maybe 5 days a week 2 months, or for £2,5k+vat 1 day saves you 2 months, whats 2 months of your time worth :?

i think i will just wait a few months of doing the sold boards to get an extra 50 customers.
Ill get 50000 leaflets made up still to use when canvassing next round in new year for the houses where no one is in. That way im getting best of both worlds and wont be disapointed if next to no jobs come from it.

I would like to know your secret lee  to be hitting 22k a month with just 2 vans. I have done all the maths with what i can achieve by working like a blue arse fly on my 2 rounds but i dont think there is enough hours in a day. 11k a month per van without commercial is nearly double me and i do early hours commercial work which also is well priced. In fact 1 of your vans does just short of 2 of mine in a month. How have you managed to get £550 a day per van from leaflet drop campaigns coz you must have to move van 40 odd times a day unless your a erage house price is £40 odd. what is your average house price/jobs done per day mine is £10 fronts £15-20 f+b so say £15. I want to get to your level but cant for the life of me work out how i can manage it even if i use 2 men in a van.

Yes Mick i was working out the same thing about Lees claim of 22K per month, perhaps he tops te money with jet washing and so on..... 

[Lee Pryor]

It seems fishy to me

Do you honestly think they will have 45 people in one town in one day delivering your leaflets all for £2500.

That does not sound truth, or a substainable business model.

Most likely to be poop

Dave its not poop im telling you, ive been using them all year and it really does get done, you can spend the whole day in the car with the team leaders and see it with your own eyes which ive done several times, its amazing.

[Dave Mills]

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[roundbuilder]

this is what im on about 50k in one bloody day ,,, m8t each person can do say 600 at a stedy pace, sometimes 800 and im talking constant pace 2 of you would do it say 2 months with the odd day off here and there maybe 5 days a week 2 months, or for £2,5k+vat 1 day saves you 2 months, whats 2 months of your time worth :?

i think i will just wait a few months of doing the sold boards to get an extra 50 customers.
Ill get 50000 leaflets made up still to use when canvassing next round in new year for the houses where no one is in. That way im getting best of both worlds and wont be disapointed if next to no jobs come from it.

I would like to know your secret lee  to be hitting 22k a month with just 2 vans. I have done all the maths with what i can achieve by working like a blue arse fly on my 2 rounds but i dont think there is enough hours in a day. 11k a month per van without commercial is nearly double me and i do early hours commercial work which also is well priced. In fact 1 of your vans does just short of 2 of mine in a month. How have you managed to get £550 a day per van from leaflet drop campaigns coz you must have to move van 40 odd times a day unless your a erage house price is £40 odd. what is your average house price/jobs done per day mine is £10 fronts £15-20 f+b so say £15. I want to get to your level but cant for the life of me work out how i can manage it even if i use 2 men in a van.

Yes Mick i was working out the same thing about Lees claim of 22K per month, perhaps he tops te money with jet washing and so on.....  

I dont think thats the case as again not enough hours in a day how are hou meant to clean 20-25 odd houses as well as a pressure washing or another extra job day in day out?? , i offer all the extras and you probably do too but only so many want extra servises and are all now and again. Im sure lee will tell how soon.
the only way i can see it working having 11k for 1 van with 2 men for me is to charge £15 for fronts and £25 for full front and back which id never get away with even If i changed to 6 weekly which would still be 20-25 houses a day. Lets face it in the real world its near impossible to achieve them this unless you have a full round in chelsea or similar.
Either lee is a genius or the 11k per van is worked out 6 weekly and not monthly like he said which would be £366 a day all day every day. If i proper went for it wit another worker with my priceing how it is at a max i could bit £350 maybe 4 but defo no way £550 a day all day everyday.

[roundbuilder]

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