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♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2012, 05:08:36 pm »
Quote from: John on December 11, 2012, 11:24:05 am
The main problem is how quick it freezes.
If you turns to ice before all the dirt is removed the window will still
be dirty when it melts.
Also ice can scratch the glass.

Nothing you can do unless you heat the water. Turning the flow up with cold water will not make it any better- the people who say different live down south & don't experience the temps you do on a 24 hour basis!

Heated water comes into it's own between 0 & -5 (approx) Less than -5 & you're stuffed anyway.

This is my third winter with an immersion heater & it's been priceless!!
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richard jagger

Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2012, 05:29:31 pm »
Hot water will also freeze but at least the glass will be clean when it melts.
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gary999

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2012, 07:05:36 pm »
started after 11am...no point any earler on really cold days...worked
up to 3:45pm   no problems.

when gets to winter i just lower my expectations to what i can achieve each day
and will work all weekend to catch up if necessary
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keyser soze

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2012, 07:12:37 pm »
Quote from: MNWC on December 11, 2012, 12:18:23 pm
Quote from: John on December 11, 2012, 11:47:45 am
Ian,
Leave some pure water out and let it freeze.
Rub it against your windows and I guarantee that they will scratch.

If it sunk the Titanic.......... ;D





lol ;D ;D.. he's got a point
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2012, 07:14:19 pm »
Quote from: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on December 11, 2012, 05:08:36 pm
Quote from: John on December 11, 2012, 11:24:05 am
The main problem is how quick it freezes.
If you turns to ice before all the dirt is removed the window will still
be dirty when it melts.
Also ice can scratch the glass.

Nothing you can do unless you heat the water. Turning the flow up with cold water will not make it any better- the people who say different live down south & don't experience the temps you do on a 24 hour basis!

Heated water comes into it's own between 0 & -5 (approx) Less than -5 & you're stuffed anyway.

This is my third winter with an immersion heater & it's been priceless!!
be it down south or up north when water is running its not frozen therefor if more water is used on said frozen glass it will help it unfreeze the water on the glass this was my point to unfreeze that's simple logic if water is in liquid form its not frozen maybe water is different in Scotland  :-\
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keyser soze

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2012, 07:18:07 pm »
what if it freezes on contact with the glass...
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dazmond

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2012, 07:41:44 pm »
to be fair i was ok today 11am-4pm.very high flow rate and i tradded doors and porches and swept any water away on footpaths.

its truly amazing how much faster it is to clean windows with a very high flow rate!! :D :D ;D ;D

ruddy cold though and i was glad to get home!! ;D ;D

i have had a porch freeze up as soon as my water  hit the glass the other week.i just said it should be clean when melted.i said to her give me a ring if it doesnt......im still waiting for the phone call!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Dave Willis

Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2012, 07:43:59 pm »
Quote
The main problem is how quick it freezes.
If you turns to ice before all the dirt is removed the window will still
be dirty when it melts.
Also ice can scratch the glass.

Nothing you can do unless you heat the water. Turning the flow up with cold water will not make it any better- the people who say different live down south & don't experience the temps you do on a 24 hour basis!

Heated water comes into it's own between 0 & -5 (approx) Less than -5 & you're stuffed anyway.

This is my third winter with an immersion heater & it's been priceless!!
[/quote]

Spot on I'd say. Once the temperature is that low, adding more cold water will only compound the problem on the glass.

Although I've never heard of ice scratching glass.  ???
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2012, 07:48:56 pm »
Quote from: Dave Willis on December 11, 2012, 07:43:59 pm
Quote
The main problem is how quick it freezes.
If you turns to ice before all the dirt is removed the window will still
be dirty when it melts.
Also ice can scratch the glass.

Nothing you can do unless you heat the water. Turning the flow up with cold water will not make it any better- the people who say different live down south & don't experience the temps you do on a 24 hour basis!

Heated water comes into it's own between 0 & -5 (approx) Less than -5 & you're stuffed anyway.

This is my third winter with an immersion heater & it's been priceless!!

Spot on I'd say.
[/quote]lol you would, I will try and film it tomorrow if I get the chance as we do this every day so I would say its not spot on at all. The point I'm making the water we use is warmer than ice so will always melt it (on domestics)
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Dave Willis

Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2012, 07:50:29 pm »
Not in really low temperatures it won't.

Try chucking a bucket of cold water over your frozen windscreen first thing  in the morning and see what happens.

Leave the wipers off and drive away for the full effect  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2012, 07:51:20 pm »
Quote from: Ian Wicks on December 11, 2012, 07:14:19 pm
Quote from: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on December 11, 2012, 05:08:36 pm
Quote from: John on December 11, 2012, 11:24:05 am
The main problem is how quick it freezes.
If you turns to ice before all the dirt is removed the window will still
be dirty when it melts.
Also ice can scratch the glass.

Nothing you can do unless you heat the water. Turning the flow up with cold water will not make it any better- the people who say different live down south & don't experience the temps you do on a 24 hour basis!

Heated water comes into it's own between 0 & -5 (approx) Less than -5 & you're stuffed anyway.

This is my third winter with an immersion heater & it's been priceless!!
be it down south or up north when water is running its not frozen therefor if more water is used on said frozen glass it will help it unfreeze the water on the glass this was my point to unfreeze that's simple logic if water is in liquid form its not frozen maybe water is different in Scotland  :-\


You're even thicker than I thought Ian! ;D ;D
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2012, 07:56:08 pm »
Quote from: Dave Willis on December 11, 2012, 07:50:29 pm
Not in really low temperatures it won't.

Try chucking a bucket of cold water over your frozen windscreen first thing  in the morning and see what happens.
if you kept doing the same it would melt it Dave unless there was a -windchill


Winpro  :-*
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gary999

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2012, 07:57:39 pm »
Quote from: Ian Wicks on December 11, 2012, 07:48:56 pm
Quote from: Dave Willis on December 11, 2012, 07:43:59 pm
Quote
The main problem is how quick it freezes.
If you turns to ice before all the dirt is removed the window will still
be dirty when it melts.
Also ice can scratch the glass.

Nothing you can do unless you heat the water. Turning the flow up with cold water will not make it any better- the people who say different live down south & don't experience the temps you do on a 24 hour basis!

Heated water comes into it's own between 0 & -5 (approx) Less than -5 & you're stuffed anyway.

This is my third winter with an immersion heater & it's been priceless!!

Spot on I'd say.
lol you would, I will try and film it tomorrow if I get the chance as we do this every day so I would say its not spot on at all. The point I'm making the water we use is warmer than ice so will always melt it (on domestics)
[/quote]

if the temperature of the glass is a lot lower than the water it will freeze on
contact the rate of flow will make no difference :)
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♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2012, 07:59:25 pm »
Quote from: Ian Wicks on December 11, 2012, 07:56:08 pm
Quote from: Dave Willis on December 11, 2012, 07:50:29 pm
Not in really low temperatures it won't.

Try chucking a bucket of cold water over your frozen windscreen first thing  in the morning and see what happens.
if you kept doing the same it would melt it Dave unless there was a -windchill


Winpro  :-*

What about both the glass & atmospheric temps you numpty! ;D  BOTH colder than your water! :-[
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Dave Willis

Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2012, 08:02:29 pm »
I normally put the hosepipe on the hill outside my house to defrost it. My neighbours would prefer salt but i just know they are wrong.
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gary999

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2012, 08:04:39 pm »
Quote from: Dave Willis on December 11, 2012, 08:02:29 pm
I normally put the hosepipe on the hill outside my house to defrost it. My neighbours would prefer salt but i just know they are wrong.

lmao ;D
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mgba_78

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2012, 08:06:30 pm »
No probs here today first job was at 7:30am and it was -3°c when we started but heated water made it a breeze.

Had a few, "WHAT! Cleaning windows in this weather??"  Our reply was"yup like the last 7  winters we have cleaned you windows!"

I think some people genuinely think we take a few months off over winter! ::)
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2012, 08:06:38 pm »
Quote from: gary999 on December 11, 2012, 07:57:39 pm
Quote from: Ian Wicks on December 11, 2012, 07:48:56 pm
Quote from: Dave Willis on December 11, 2012, 07:43:59 pm
Quote
The main problem is how quick it freezes.
If you turns to ice before all the dirt is removed the window will still
be dirty when it melts.
Also ice can scratch the glass.
Nothing you can do unless you heat the water. Turning the flow up with cold water will not make it any better- the people who say different live down south & don't experience the temps you do on a 24 hour basis!

Heated water comes into it's own between 0 & -5 (approx) Less than -5 & you're stuffed anyway.

This is my third winter with an immersion heater & it's been priceless!!

Spot on I'd say.
lol you would, I will try and film it tomorrow if I get the chance as we do this every day so I would say its not spot on at all. The point I'm making the water we use is warmer than ice so will always melt it (on domestics)

if the temperature of the glass is a lot lower than the water it will freeze on
contact the rate of flow will make no difference :)
[/quote]That's my point, if its colder it will Defrost with warmer water as the glass will heat up, I'm clearly not explaining what I mean very well sorry
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Dave Willis

Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2012, 08:09:12 pm »
Ian, you don't half spout some rubbish sometimes most of the time.
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2012, 08:15:50 pm »
Quote from: Dave Willis on December 11, 2012, 08:09:12 pm
Ian, you don't half spout some rubbish sometimes most of the time.
dave I'm just not good at explaining what I mean with written words there is a difference and for that I'm sorry, if I spouted rubbish most of the time I would not do what I do nor would I help people the way i do but your welcome to have your views on me ;)
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