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Jonny D

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Water freezing on windows.
« on: December 11, 2012, 10:27:20 am »
Today all the houses I have done the water is freezing on the windows. The first couple there was no one in but the last 2 the customers were in and complained about their windows being covered in ice. What do I do? I don't want to keep working if the windows will still be covered in ice when the customer gets home and they refuse to pay or do I just carry on and hope for the best?
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gavinb

Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 10:52:50 am »
Get the ladder out  ;D
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 11:14:44 am »
Quote from: Jonny D on December 11, 2012, 10:27:20 am
Today all the houses I have done the water is freezing on the windows. The first couple there was no one in but the last 2 the customers were in and complained about their windows being covered in ice. What do I do? I don't want to keep working if the windows will still be covered in ice when the customer gets home and they refuse to pay or do I just carry on and hope for the best?
if its freezing when water is going on glass keep cleaning it as the ice will melt, nothing you can do about if it refreezes after I certainly would not be be getting a ladder out, I would trad bottom windows they look out if they complain apart from that I would carry on, very few are normally at home on my work just explain it will dry fine if not to call you and you will come back and fix it
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home6442

Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 11:24:05 am »
The main problem is how quick it freezes.
If you turns to ice before all the dirt is removed the window will still
be dirty when it melts.
Also ice can scratch the glass.
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 11:31:24 am »
Quote from: John on December 11, 2012, 11:24:05 am
The main problem is how quick it freezes.
If you turns to ice before all the dirt is removed the window will still
be dirty when it melts.
Also ice can scratch the glass.
dirt in ice can scratch the window. The water you use is not frozen so out more water on the glass it will warm to that temp giving plenty if time to get the dirt off I'm talking normal house windows not 20ft wide ones on commercial
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stuart mc

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2012, 11:40:04 am »
I am about 7 miles from jonny d and the trouble is the water is freezing before you can get to scrub the windows, sure some older heated ones are fine but more are not, and the temperatures are not set to rise above zero until friday so any frozen windows will stay like that, anyway just having a coffee and filling my trad bucket and I am off to do what little trad jobs I have due although my brother just phoned me to say that isn't much better and he has a list of work to redo when the temps rise again
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2012, 11:47:03 am »
Quote from: stuart m on December 11, 2012, 11:40:04 am
I am about 7 miles from jonny d and the trouble is the water is freezing before you can get to scrub the windows, sure some older heated ones are fine but more are not, and the temperatures are not set to rise above zero until friday so any frozen windows will stay like that, anyway just having a coffee and filling my trad bucket and I am off to do what little trad jobs I have due although my brother just phoned me to say that isn't much better and he has a list of work to redo when the temps rise again
Stuart, I meant if the water is coming out of your brush then you can clean, you just need a higher than normal flow rate it will heat the glass enough to clean (normally) as I am no where near where ever both are it could be -50 for all I know, I was just trying to help the guy. if its freezing at brush head then I would be joining you for coffee :)
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home6442

Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2012, 11:47:45 am »
Ian,
Leave some pure water out and let it freeze.
Rub it against your windows and I guarantee that they will scratch.
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stuart mc

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2012, 11:52:30 am »
to be fair the OP is doing better than me, I can't get my system going at all, bad prep from my part ;D will sort it for tomorrow

and I know what you are saying Ian, I usually do the same when I know temps will rise and the odd frozen window will melt clean
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2012, 11:53:44 am »
Quote from: John on December 11, 2012, 11:47:45 am
Ian,
Leave some pure water out and let it freeze.
Rub it against your windows and I guarantee that they will scratch.
ok will try that hold on
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MNWC

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2012, 12:18:23 pm »
Quote from: John on December 11, 2012, 11:47:45 am
Ian,
Leave some pure water out and let it freeze.
Rub it against your windows and I guarantee that they will scratch.

If it sunk the Titanic.......... ;D
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Ronnie Bryce

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2012, 12:27:36 pm »
 And gorged out Glencoe....... :o
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Tom White

Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2012, 02:42:54 pm »
I did a house last year with a mahoosive conservatory.  The house was great; no problems; it was heated.

But I left the whole conservatory looking like frosted glass.  As soon as the water ran down and I was rinsing; it froze.

I said to the customer, "It should melt and dry clean, if it doesn't, call me".  She paid and never called me, so I assume it was okay?
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wfp master

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2012, 03:59:47 pm »
Quote from: Jonny D on December 11, 2012, 10:27:20 am
Today all the houses I have done the water is freezing on the windows. The first couple there was no one in but the last 2 the customers were in and complained about their windows being covered in ice. What do I do? I don't want to keep working if the windows will still be covered in ice when the customer gets home and they refuse to pay or do I just carry on and hope for the best?
done a couple in the shade water froze on windows about 9.30 this morning tried trading same happened.i gave up until 11.30 when the temp was up a bit. -4 it was.
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glen parva

Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2012, 04:02:58 pm »
we have been wfp allday in brimingham no problen on comerical property
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wfp master

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2012, 04:15:02 pm »
Quote from: Glen Parva Cleaning Services on December 11, 2012, 04:02:58 pm
we have been wfp allday in brimingham no problen on comerical property
obviously not cold then like -6
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2012, 04:20:57 pm »
Quote from: sfwc on December 11, 2012, 04:15:02 pm
Quote from: Glen Parva Cleaning Services on December 11, 2012, 04:02:58 pm
we have been wfp allday in brimingham no problen on comerical property
obviously not cold then like -6
this is why i dont live up north (to cold up there)
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wfp master

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2012, 04:27:01 pm »
Quote from: Ian Wicks on December 11, 2012, 04:20:57 pm
Quote from: sfwc on December 11, 2012, 04:15:02 pm
Quote from: Glen Parva Cleaning Services on December 11, 2012, 04:02:58 pm
we have been wfp allday in brimingham no problen on comerical property
obviously not cold then like -6
this is why i dont live up north (to cold up there)
thats why were having problems its baltic up here  ;)
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Window Washers

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2012, 04:28:55 pm »
Quote from: sfwc on December 11, 2012, 04:27:01 pm
Quote from: Ian Wicks on December 11, 2012, 04:20:57 pm
Quote from: sfwc on December 11, 2012, 04:15:02 pm
Quote from: Glen Parva Cleaning Services on December 11, 2012, 04:02:58 pm
we have been wfp allday in brimingham no problen on comerical property
obviously not cold then like -6
this is why i dont live up north (to cold up there)
thats why were having problems its baltic up here  ;)
to be fair down here its cold, I have had to have the heater on in my office all day  :(
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steven ainger

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Re: Water freezing on windows.
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2012, 05:02:44 pm »
First house this morning, 9 oclock, there was frozen condensation on the conservatory, started scrubbing with the brush and no joy the water was freezing as i tried to rinse, then the warm water came through the hose and the ice melted straight away & it didnt refreeze either before i left.
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