[John Geurkink]

in your cleaning process? Have you ever tested it?
How many of you have used ATP testing to quantify how much organics you have removed from the carpet?
Or tested to see what the customer is left with when you are finished?

[derek west]

the smile on my customers face, the 2 year repeat when its actually still quite clean and emtying and seeing what comes out of my tank is all i need to know john. i think everything else is just waffle. but thats just me mate. i'm sure others will be intrigued to view your findings, i'm guessing your gonna shock us with encap removes more than a trucky.

[Barry Livingstone]

I cant remove much as today's jobs are 6mthly DOMESTICS and they Booked in for Next June/july

[robert meldrum]

My answer is............I have no idea and have judged my results purely on what my eyes have told me for the past 30 years.

It's been good enough to get repeats and referrals and I've never felt the urge to justify the service provided.

I have, however read a lot of claims over the years from manufacturers or suppliers of cleaning equipment and I've no doubt that similar sections of carpet taken from a concentrated foot fall area, weighed,  beaten, vacuumed and subjected to a number of different systems of cleaning might have surprising results.

This, however is of no interest to the purchaser of carpet cleaning services who will believe what their senses tell them, particularly their sight, touch and smell.

Derek posted while I was typing and typed what I'd expect a T/M user to type which is fair enough ..............but it's worth finding out from ANY recognised expert in their field what their views are and the tests / comparisons they've allowed their products to take part in.

The cleaning method that astonished me when I first tried it was Texatherm which I was using in a retail environment with very high traffic areas.

[Simon Gerrard]

No!

As Derek says, seeing what has come out of a carpet having cleaned it is enough, provided off course you're using a system that actually removes dirt from a carpet in the first place

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I'm not too fussed at what comes out its more of what the carpet looks like and that's what the customer pays for, I wish I could believe in the op system to use on domestics but I can't.

Shaun

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Low moisture doe's remove dirt thats why pads are dirty and if looks clean its good enough also how can you tm'ers know youv'e extracted all dirt your just seeing the carpet look clean like us LM'ers and seeing some dirty water like are dirty pad's your not actually seeing your water run clear. Each too there own as argued many times before 

[mark_roberts]

John

Why dont you just get a machine over here pronto so we can make up our mind for ourselves.

Every minute you waste on here more sprayborgs are being sold.

Mark

[derek west]

yeah but isn't padding your only option PM?

you say each to there own but surely that arguement is only correct to guys that only have one option, i have several options when it comes to cleaning a carpet, i use them all, so therefore each to there own doesn't actually apply to me.

[Simon Gerrard]

Low moisture doe's remove dirt thats why pads are dirty and if looks clean its good enough also how can you tm'ers know youv'e extracted all dirt your just seeing the carpet look clean like us LM'ers and seeing some dirty water like are dirty pad's your not actually seeing your water run clear. Each too there own as argued many times before 

PM,
Thin argument that one

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Each to there own opinion Derek you'll have your own opinion on each way you clean and i'l have mine and Simon has his lm don't clean  

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

I would also love to have other options i'e a Tm or porty and then i mite eat my words and need Simon to help me keep it running haha 

[Paul Moss]

PM lm does clean and very well in the  right circumstances but and it is a Big BUT you cant get the best cleans with t on every job. HWE is the best and most thorough clean and will also make the carpet last longer between cleans.

Its as simple as that  

[Adrian Marsh]

yeah but isn't padding your only option PM?

you say each to there own but surely that arguement is only correct to guys that only have one option, i have several options when it comes to cleaning a carpet, i use them all, so therefore each to there own doesn't actually apply to me.

Or me!!
System emloyed is determined by the carpet type, soil level and customer expectation. I don't have 30 years experience, just seven. In that time I've yet to come across ANY system that can do it all. Re: amount of soil extracted. As others have stated, only have to look at the carpet and waste tank to answer that. When padding, yes the pads are dirty........but then I'd be surprised if they weren't. As for VLM, don't use it too often for obvious reasons but when circumstances dictate.......

[Simon Gerrard]

I would also love to have other options i'e a Tm or porty and then i mite eat my words and need Simon to help me keep it running haha  

Ah, so DF really isn't the business in all circumstances, is it?
Interesting that you say, 'would love to have other options,' why don't you have other options?

Simon

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Because all circumstances iv'e had iv'e only had DF at my disposal and some were harder work than maybe a burst of hot water but still got down and done job to a good enough standard and money is the reason not enough options 

[Billy Russell]

I strive for a big one like Captain Big Blower Gerrard!!

 

[Simon Gerrard]

The thing is you will always be trapped in this endless cycle of poor sales as a result of under-investment  unless you break that cycle by getting the tools you need, regardless of what it costs you.

Simon

[*Hector*]

I agree Simon....

I have several buffers of different sizes and speeds, and a variety of pads.. 

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

The thing is you will always be trapped in this endless cycle of poor sales as a result of under-investment  unless you break that cycle by getting the tools you need, regardless of what it costs you.

Simon

I understand that Simon but this is only my second year on my own and it's been a struggle i never had any startup money just borrowed from family to buy from a friend the setup and with no money behind me just the gear it's a struggle but i'l keep knuckling down and hopefully it will pay off in the end HOPEFULLY and if not well at least i tried