[Dave Garrett]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-Cleaning-Business-for-sale-Round-Contract-Cleaning-Commercial-Cleaning-/290825460572?pt=UK_B_I_Business_for_Sale_CV&hash=item43b68c5b5c

[concept]

Well worth it, and some.

[Xtremely Clean]

Wonder why they use a 10 year old van in a business earning so much money?

[Window Washers]

Wonder why they use a 10 year old van in a business earning so much money?

maybe they keep an eye on profit over ego, who knows

[mlscontractcleaner]

Great answer; far too many people think that leasing a new van makes them a success. In reality it just puts you in debt 

[concept]

Wonder why they use a 10 year old van in a business earning so much money?

maybe they keep an eye on profit over ego, who knows

Got it.

Although I have to say, there is a point where function and reliability takes over.

[concept]

Great answer; far too many people think that leasing a new van makes them a success. In reality it just puts you in debt 

I agree to a point, however, my business is too important to suffer down time an unreliable systems and vehicles, it needs to be bullet proof for my staff to use, as I have found out this year throwing thousands of pounds at old vans.

[Xtremely Clean]

its not ego its good business sense, I've just had to scrap my 10 year old van as there was something going wrong on it every other week, maybe they were lucky and didn't have that trouble??

[concept]

its not ego its good business sense, I've just had to scrap my 10 year old van as there was something going wrong on it every other week, maybe they were lucky and didn't have that trouble??

Just what I'm about to do.

Absolute nightmare when you've got a guy sat doing nothing.

[Xtremely Clean]

its not ego its good business sense, I've just had to scrap my 10 year old van as there was something going wrong on it every other week, maybe they were lucky and didn't have that trouble??

Just what I'm about to do.

Absolute nightmare when you've got a guy sat doing nothing.

That's it concept the amount of down time I've had is unbelievable = too much money lost :-(

[Window Washers]

Great answer; far too many people think that leasing a new van makes them a success. In reality it just puts you in debt  

I agree to a point, however, my business is too important to suffer down time an unreliable systems and vehicles, it needs to be bullet proof for my staff to use, as I have found out this year throwing thousands of pounds at old vans.

Simon,

My business is too important aswell to suffer down time an unreliable systems and vehicles, i too need bullet proof for my staff yet I dont have NEW vans.

Would I like new vans of coause who would'nt, will I get to that , yep 100%

I use mine because they are reliable or I would replace them, maybe I will add a new one next year but the only reason i will do that is because of the end profit and benifit to my business not for vanity reasons.

Dont get my wrong I would love new vans so I could stroke my ego, but not only would that be bad for my business right now (my wife would kill me)

The point I was making was some buy because of ego, from a business point of view I think thats wrong as its buying on emotion.

I totally get your point as have been there and had the same problems you mention.

[Window Washers]

its not ego its good business sense, I've just had to scrap my 10 year old van as there was something going wrong on it every other week, maybe they were lucky and didn't have that trouble??

Just what I'm about to do.

Absolute nightmare when you've got a guy sat doing nothing.

I understand what you guys mean, good business sence in the fact they will last be less hassle save you money long term.

Clarkey if your van was totally fine and still worked, and simon you didnt have the hassles would you say the same thing ? would you then have still gone and bought a new van ? be honest

[Xtremely Clean]

Ian I wish I could afford a new van  , I've teamed up with my brother in law and were renting one between us which isn't cheap at £520 a month but we don't fix anything and get another van straight away if anything goes wrong 

[concept]

its not ego its good business sense, I've just had to scrap my 10 year old van as there was something going wrong on it every other week, maybe they were lucky and didn't have that trouble??

Just what I'm about to do.

Absolute nightmare when you've got a guy sat doing nothing.

I understand what you guys mean, good business sence in the fact they will last be less hassle save you money long term.

Clarkey if your van was totally fine and still worked, and simon you didnt have the hassles would you say the same thing ? would you then have still gone and bought a new van ? be honest

If I didn't have the hassles, I would still be getting a new van, as the contracts we have now require a different level of approach, of course appearance wise it's partly ego, but, pulling up at a contract where you are on site for 3 weeks, in a battered and rusty old van, where you are seen by some fairly high profile people, just doesn't portray the right image for MY business.

My business has expanded to a level now where a simple DIY set up does not work so a professional system that can be left to work reliably, and most importantly safely, for my team, is important. Sme of our work is 2 hours away from base and I can't have a 4 year old set up constantly needing attention, and a van causing issues.

Put simply, I cannot afford to not service these contracts in the manner they expect, as the next firm that comes along will.

[Window Washers]

its not ego its good business sense, I've just had to scrap my 10 year old van as there was something going wrong on it every other week, maybe they were lucky and didn't have that trouble??

Just what I'm about to do.

Absolute nightmare when you've got a guy sat doing nothing.

I understand what you guys mean, good business sence in the fact they will last be less hassle save you money long term.

Clarkey if your van was totally fine and still worked, and simon you didnt have the hassles would you say the same thing ? would you then have still gone and bought a new van ? be honest

If I didn't have the hassles, I would still be getting a new van, as the contracts we have now require a different level of approach, of course appearance wise it's partly ego, but, pulling up at a contract where you are on site for 3 weeks, in a battered and rusty old van, where you are seen by some fairly high profile people, just doesn't portray the right image for MY business.

My business has expanded to a level now where a simple DIY set up does not work so a professional system that can be left to work reliably, and most importantly safely, for my team, is important. Sme of our work is 2 hours away from base and I can't have a 4 year old set up constantly needing attention, and a van causing issues.

Put simply, I cannot afford to not service these contracts in the manner they expect, as the next firm that comes along will.

so appearance wise it is partly ego,

I wasnt talking about safety, or the other things mate, just about ego, I do understand the other bits you added in though 

[concept]

its not ego its good business sense, I've just had to scrap my 10 year old van as there was something going wrong on it every other week, maybe they were lucky and didn't have that trouble??

Just what I'm about to do.

Absolute nightmare when you've got a guy sat doing nothing.

I understand what you guys mean, good business sence in the fact they will last be less hassle save you money long term.

Clarkey if your van was totally fine and still worked, and simon you didnt have the hassles would you say the same thing ? would you then have still gone and bought a new van ? be honest

If I didn't have the hassles, I would still be getting a new van, as the contracts we have now require a different level of approach, of course appearance wise it's partly ego, but, pulling up at a contract where you are on site for 3 weeks, in a battered and rusty old van, where you are seen by some fairly high profile people, just doesn't portray the right image for MY business.

My business has expanded to a level now where a simple DIY set up does not work so a professional system that can be left to work reliably, and most importantly safely, for my team, is important. Sme of our work is 2 hours away from base and I can't have a 4 year old set up constantly needing attention, and a van causing issues.

Put simply, I cannot afford to not service these contracts in the manner they expect, as the next firm that comes along will.

so appearance wise it is partly ego,

I wasnt talking about safety, or the other things mate, just about ego, I do understand the other bits you added in though 

I don't know if I could put it down to ego, I believe presentation is one of the many keys to success. Wouldn't see Mitie running 10 year old rust buckets.

[Window Washers]

its not ego its good business sense, I've just had to scrap my 10 year old van as there was something going wrong on it every other week, maybe they were lucky and didn't have that trouble??

Just what I'm about to do.

Absolute nightmare when you've got a guy sat doing nothing.

I understand what you guys mean, good business sence in the fact they will last be less hassle save you money long term.

Clarkey if your van was totally fine and still worked, and simon you didnt have the hassles would you say the same thing ? would you then have still gone and bought a new van ? be honest

If I didn't have the hassles, I would still be getting a new van, as the contracts we have now require a different level of approach, of course appearance wise it's partly ego, but, pulling up at a contract where you are on site for 3 weeks, in a battered and rusty old van, where you are seen by some fairly high profile people, just doesn't portray the right image for MY business.

My business has expanded to a level now where a simple DIY set up does not work so a professional system that can be left to work reliably, and most importantly safely, for my team, is important. Sme of our work is 2 hours away from base and I can't have a 4 year old set up constantly needing attention, and a van causing issues.

Put simply, I cannot afford to not service these contracts in the manner they expect, as the next firm that comes along will.

so appearance wise it is partly ego,

I wasnt talking about safety, or the other things mate, just about ego, I do understand the other bits you added in though 

I don't know if I could put it down to ego, I believe presentation is one of the many keys to success. Wouldn't see Mitie running 10 year old rust buckets.

it's not mitie selling a round  this was the point i was trying to make because someone said if they are doing that why dont they have a new van (or similar to that) Are you in your office Simon, would like to have a quick chat if your about

[concept]

Yes mate, landline in half hour.

[Window Washers]

Yes mate, landline in half hour.

cool

[Mist A Bit]

its not ego its good business sense, I've just had to scrap my 10 year old van as there was something going wrong on it every other week, maybe they were lucky and didn't have that trouble??

newer vans nearly finished my business with the costs of repair. now got s reg toyota and its cost me a side light bulb in two years