thanks for the fast reply mike .its my mates pole 26 foot carbon . the clamps dont need tweeking yet , but with him being new to the job i didnt want him struggling in the future . i told him it was an allan key like my elite , but obviously not .by the way hes only been wfp 2 weeks and its his first pole .but he loves it and is flying with it . will pass on the reply . cheers barry