agree , its refreshing to be able to speak to someone so high up the chain , maybe he has been to honest for his own good , and lets remember alex come on the thred first , only then did stephen step in , we all know gardeners are brilliant , but surely we should give a new pole a chance , anyway all this has been better than x factor and strictly come dancing , maybe we should get tulisa and gary barlow to judge the poles , settle it once and for all