leather cleaning

« **on:** February 01, 2006, 07:33:35 am »

just like to c how big this market really is

« **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2006, 10:03:40 am »

just like to add i tryed to discuss leather cleaning on cleantalk if it was worth paying out for £300 course if the work aint there and all my post get deleted , u recon its because the owner has a vested intrest in these course lol

its turning into a comy forum imo
gary

« **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2006, 11:05:38 am »

The cleaning market for leather is out there as I have said, it is just that people have a misconception that leather does not need cleaning or looking after, this is generally the fault of the retailers who give this impression. It is also down to the cleaning market to promote the true facts about leather care to their market.

As we have just returned from the furniture show and the amount of leather being sold is still at least 50% so there is a market for cleaning just as there is for fabric. Leather is not bullet proof and good care can significantly extend the life of the suite.

We field calls every day from customers looking for good cleaners to clean and repair their suites so we understand that the need is there.

I for one certainly welcome this kind of discussion amongst the cleaners, not because it promotes courses but because we feel strongly about good quality care being available to the public once they have spent good money buying a piece of furniture. Obviously there are different levels of market in the leather furniture world as there are in the fabric side but I bet you don't distinguish between the two when it comes to upholstery cleaning, if a customer wants to have thier suite cleaned then I am sure you will do it to the best of your ability whatever the suite cost.

Any upholstery cleaners who do not add leather to their portfolio are missing out an an ever growing market and will only lose this section to those who are prepared to learn and to market this service with the right knowledge to back them up.

Regards

Judy

« **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2006, 11:09:39 am »

hang on min judy, dont come over giving your opions when i was not allowed to repond or make on your comments on cleantalk comy site

p,s if u agree to disscussions then ask for my comments and opions to be reinstated on cleantalk which u hav a vested intrest
regards gary

« **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2006, 11:24:26 am »

u are also breaking the rules of this site by plugging your firm as u hav an intrest in making money out of these courses,leather cleaning etc thus u allso giv a biased opion on the subject, were as we are forming a independant opion,u are putting ideas in cleaners heads for purpose of making money out of them
with respect gary

« **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2006, 11:27:23 am »

Gary,

I wish you would stop sitting on the fence :

just say what you mean

« **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2006, 11:33:11 am »

lol well someones gotter stick up for us

« **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2006, 11:38:38 am »

I am always prepared to discuss topics and we give a lot of help and advice when needed. We are interested in helping all you guys make money at what you are good at already by adding another service to your work, don't knock us for the way we earn our money, all we want to do is help and to use the vast experience we have to help you and the consumer.

We are out on the road doing cleaning and repairs and all I am saying is that we know there is a huge demand for it it is all down to how you market your services.

Nick has the overall say on who or who does not post on his site and it was posted on his part of the site not mine.

I thought everyone has a vested inerest in making more money for their own business, now you have a way of doing it.

regards

Judy

« **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2006, 11:51:29 am »

"now we hav a way of doing it" well u going to say that arent u u charge £300 for showing us how maybe we can, not knocking u att all but il come to me own opion as to leather cleaning is viable or not and with the help of other exp cleaners on here

« **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:15:41 pm »

Cl/co

what are you gibbering at. You are being given good advice from an acknowledged expert on an open forum and your questions are being answered honestly.

I've been cleaning leather for years, but am probably about to attend a course with a view to learning about repairs , which is a lot easier and better paid than cleaning

rob m

« **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:23:39 pm »

lol nice one nick

and i know u can c this lol

sad thing is ive been on that forum since the start and we allways were alowed to debate anything related to cleaning thats what is was about,shame u turned it into a huge shopping window for your firm were anything gets deleted if they go agaisnt a topic related to your bizz ie machines ,chems,traning courses in fact anything were it concerns u making money ,but hey your a bizz man and hav that right if u now own the site, just shame u had to do it on what was basc once a public forum,but like i said its not a forum any more just a place for u to plug and sell your wares, all the best gary

« **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:30:34 pm »

Quote from: therapist on February 01, 2006, 12:15:41 pm

Cl/co

what are you gibbering at. You are being given good advice from an acknowledged expert on an open forum and your questions are being answered honestly.

I've been cleaning leather for years, but am probably about to attend a course with a view to learning about repairs , which is a lot easier and better paid than cleaning

rob m gibbering cheeky so and so my poll was started to gauge the responce to c if their really was a market good enough for leather cleaning not to be told there is by someone making money out of it, if u are getting calls for it then well done but lets c if other carpet and upholstery cleaners say in the poll yes ?
gary

« **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:33:16 pm »

Waken up Gary

Nick is about 600 hundred miles from me and just as likely to cross swords with me, in fact I was probably one of the people who were blamed for upsetting the a / s group

you need to read more slowly and think about what's being said

rob m

no affiliations to anyone in the c/c business

« **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2006, 12:38:49 pm »

excuse me rob u need to read more carefully i was refering to LTT mate U NEED TO THINK BEFORE U REPLY ROB
REGARDS GARY

« **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2006, 01:09:32 pm »

Hi Guys,

I clean 2-3 leather suites a month and find a good repeat rate.

I haven't yet been on the course but spoke extensively to Judy and Andy at Carpex, the best stand in my view.

I'm still hoping they will hold a course in Essex/London .

Judy and Andy have both been helpful on many occaisions on Cleanitup.

While I understand your frustration Gary , I feel Judy is the wrong target , she is always helpful and friendly and I would trust her.I would be surprised if she would delete anything on a commercial basis.

Cheers

Doug

« **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2006, 01:11:14 pm »

most people..including me..took out insurance whilst purchasing the suite...which includes cleaning...for 5 years. might be why the market is slow...most upholstery courses cover leather cleaning...so whats all this £300 for a course nonsense

2 products and a rag, thats what I say.

« **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2006, 01:13:38 pm »

fair comment doug, jesus i only wanted to see if people get a demand for leather cleaning lol

lol got two lots of people on two forums debating the same topic at once supurb allways wondered if i could do this !! lol

« **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2006, 02:08:34 pm »

i for one am doing the leather course next week in farnham along with another c/c who has been at it years. i feel that the more strings we have the better the oppertunities. £300 slighlty more than that but what is that!?. looking through these pages it must be peanuts to what some peole say they earn on this forum . i am sure i will gain valuable experience and it will be down to me to market and find the work. we all know that leather is there to be cleaned as carpets are. cleaning carpets need selling too . far too many people do not realise the imporatance of regular cleaned carpets, almost everyone i have worked for have admitted that either its the first time in several years or its been 3 or 4 since the last clean. its down to me to convince them to clean them every year which i manage to do in most cases. it will be the same with leather . we dont get work handed to us on a plate unless you are extremely lucky

« **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2006, 02:15:30 pm »

Scott

I am very surprised if any insurance/warranty would cover cleaning for 5 years I've certainly never come across one that does.

As leather is a natural product it is very unwise to say cleaning is as simple as 2 products and a rag. Firstly you have to understand the differences between the types of leather and then you have to understand how different products work on different types of leather and be sure the products you use actually work, as many on the market do not have any positive effect especially those that claim to be conditioners.

£300 is very good value compared to a claim against your insurance when things go wrong. We have helped many a cleaner (some of them with many years experience) out of trouble when he has thought he knew how to clean leather and has been sued by the customer because he was not aware of what he was dealing with and the damage he was doing with the wrong products.

Thank you for your comments Doug we do courses in Farnham you know, not too far away!!

Regards
Judy

« **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2006, 02:27:08 pm »

Its about changing peoples(customers) perceptions!Leather does need cleaning and care and its up to us/you to market the service,I have done in Leeds and cant find enough hours in a day!
And before anyone asks I did attend an LTT course and will be eternally grateful!!!

Poll

how often do u get asked to clean leather