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bobplum

  • Posts: 5602
Keep it simple ladders it is then

but then is that not breaking HSE rules

no short term duration to do job

might be a good idea to email andrew willis at impact 43 with the photo and get a second opinion

hes ur bezzy mate can u do it ?  ;)
  ;)

Neil Gornall

  • Posts: 640
I would dragonfly this.  So simple and quick.
However if its very dirty I would perhaps trad it for the first clean, but definitely Dragonfly maintenance cleans after.

https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/locate-a-centre/search-centres/partner-uk/inchcape-retail/cheshire-oaks.html

As per the title ...

Thinking one of them little scissor lifts only viable / safe method ?

Ian, Hi

I personally would not recommend ladder work on this, from the image the front elevation is at an angle and the return elevation look as if the exceed 9m, suggest first clean with a small machine
http://www.jms-access.co.uk/hr15.html,
Check structural loadings with the client to make sure the floor can take the weight, complete a good first clean, suggest it would be a good opportunity to vacuum all structures whilst you have machine in, change any lamps etc
 
Then propose on going cleans using this internal system, just need to have a suitable specification, quarterly clean minimum,   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYgdvlKWo3k
 
There is an area you may not be able to clean with recess (to the left of side elevation ) hope this is of use Andy

I would dragonfly this.  So simple and quick.
However if its very dirty I would perhaps trad it for the first clean, but definitely Dragonfly maintenance cleans after.


Beat me to it  :)

Frankybadboy

  • Posts: 9022
wagtail on a pole,could it work ;)

Cliff perkins

  • Posts: 1257
Dragonfly it easy and quick just make sure you have plenty of pads
Www.1stglasswindowcleaning.co.uk

Ian101

  • Posts: 7887
https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/locate-a-centre/search-centres/partner-uk/inchcape-retail/cheshire-oaks.html

As per the title ...

Thinking one of them little scissor lifts only viable / safe method ?

Ian, Hi

I personally would not recommend ladder work on this, from the image the front elevation is at an angle and the return elevation look as if the exceed 9m, suggest first clean with a small machine
http://www.jms-access.co.uk/hr15.html,
Check structural loadings with the client to make sure the floor can take the weight, complete a good first clean, suggest it would be a good opportunity to vacuum all structures whilst you have machine in, change any lamps etc
 
Then propose on going cleans using this internal system, just need to have a suitable specification, quarterly clean minimum,   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYgdvlKWo3k
 
There is an area you may not be able to clean with recess (to the left of side elevation ) hope this is of use Andy


Very helpful ... thanks Andy  :)

trevor perry

  • Posts: 2454
in my opinion i would use ladder if under 9 metres high but would ensure it is footed and rubber ladder mits on the top, if over 9 metres then i would use a zip up scaffold others have mentioned a small cherrypicker but be aware these are heavier than they look and the floor may not be adequate to take the weight, even if the floor can take the weight any tiles that have been laid and have airpockets in the tile adhesive will crack unless you board the area out to run the machine on, finally some mention dragonfly or similar these are fine for maintenance cleans but even then they do not clean the sills so so personally dont think they are much use, when you do a method statement put the reasons you are using the method of access chosen at least then it will show you had assessed the situation
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

GB Window Cleaning

  • Posts: 3262
in my opinion i would use ladder if under 9 metres high but would ensure it is footed and rubber ladder mits on the top, if over 9 metres then i would use a zip up scaffold others have mentioned a small cherrypicker but be aware these are heavier than they look and the floor may not be adequate to take the weight, even if the floor can take the weight any tiles that have been laid and have airpockets in the tile adhesive will crack unless you board the area out to run the machine on, finally some mention dragonfly or similar these are fine for maintenance cleans but even then they do not clean the sills so so personally dont think they are much use, when you do a method statement put the reasons you are using the method of access chosen at least then it will show you had assessed the situation

I had the same idea about frames and sills too, also im interested what frequencys poepl offer for these commercial jobs? ( i know. another frequncy question from george  ;D)

Ian101

  • Posts: 7887
in my opinion i would use ladder if under 9 metres high but would ensure it is footed and rubber ladder mits on the top, if over 9 metres then i would use a zip up scaffold others have mentioned a small cherrypicker but be aware these are heavier than they look and the floor may not be adequate to take the weight, even if the floor can take the weight any tiles that have been laid and have airpockets in the tile adhesive will crack unless you board the area out to run the machine on, finally some mention dragonfly or similar these are fine for maintenance cleans but even then they do not clean the sills so so personally dont think they are much use, when you do a method statement put the reasons you are using the method of access chosen at least then it will show you had assessed the situation

I had the same idea about frames and sills too, also im interested what frequencys poepl offer for these commercial jobs? ( i know. another frequncy question from george  ;D)

I would hope to get the outsides on a monthly or 6 weeks schedule and insides done every other to keep cost down

bobplum

  • Posts: 5602
https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/locate-a-centre/search-centres/partner-uk/inchcape-retail/cheshire-oaks.html

As per the title ...

Thinking one of them little scissor lifts only viable / safe method ?

Ian, Hi

I personally would not recommend ladder work on this, from the image the front elevation is at an angle and the return elevation look as if the exceed 9m, suggest first clean with a small machine
http://www.jms-access.co.uk/hr15.html,
Check structural loadings with the client to make sure the floor can take the weight, complete a good first clean, suggest it would be a good opportunity to vacuum all structures whilst you have machine in, change any lamps etc
 
Then propose on going cleans using this internal system, just need to have a suitable specification, quarterly clean minimum,   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYgdvlKWo3k
 
There is an area you may not be able to clean with recess (to the left of side elevation ) hope this is of use Andy



told yeah.....his the man ;D

brynley

  • Posts: 283
i do 3  car show rooms, outside every 2 weeks, insides monthly

GB Window Cleaning

  • Posts: 3262
i do 3  car show rooms, outside every 2 weeks, insides monthly
Wow, Does anybody else here do showrooms this often? i know some shop windows can be daily clean can't they!?

Most frequent i had was a cafe i did once a fortnight!

brynley

  • Posts: 283
the owner of all 3 car showrooms has i'm told ocd, he can spot dust, dirt or finger prints from a mile away, so likes them sparkling all the time, even more often if he has vip's coming to visit.