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richywilts

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ive met up with a chap who i was introduced through a recruitment agency and we have decided we would like to work together and cut out the agency

im certainly not an expert in the commercial side of window cleaning and struggling to know what to make this guy aware of in terms of knowledge/training for when hes meeting up with facilities managers and business owners/key decision makers etc

so im hoping some of the bigger guys who do major commercial can help me out

if you were taking on a sales rep what would be the main things you would be training him up on??

i am prepared before people moan i just want to make sure ive covered everything and not missed vital things
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

lyndy

  • Posts: 384
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 01:32:26 pm »
Would they tell you?

Rodger

  • Posts: 8
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 01:58:27 pm »
we have decided we would like to work together and cut out the agency

That statement is an indication that your relationship is likely to fail from the word go mate. Sorry to be blunt but can't you work together and use the agency or is the paying element too much to swallow?

supernova77

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Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 03:16:50 pm »
Quote
we have decided we would like to work together and cut out the agency

That statement is an indication that your relationship is likely to fail from the word go mate.

I agree... A bit unethical I think.

Perfect Windows

  • Posts: 4303
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2012, 04:21:07 pm »
ive met up with a chap who i was introduced through a recruitment agency and we have decided we would like to work together and cut out the agency

The agency have done their bit and you've decided not to pay them.  Interesting.

Vin

richywilts

  • Posts: 4262
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2012, 04:55:13 pm »
they wanted £14 per hour to pay him £10

they were just sending me a number of candidates to interview for the job
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Rodger

  • Posts: 8
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2012, 05:13:51 pm »
How would you propose an agency makes any money? Buy charging their clients out at the same rate that you are paying them?

trevor perry

  • Posts: 2454
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2012, 05:17:46 pm »
they wanted £14 per hour to pay him £10

they were just sending me a number of candidates to interview for the job

how much do you pay your employees for every £14 they make
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Halfadaylee

  • Posts: 625
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 05:20:38 pm »
Richy,
You could of advertised for a rep yourself but didn't because of the hassle?
The agency have all the hassle to introduce him to you.
You then do a side deal. Your new rep must be as crooked as you.
Art

richywilts

  • Posts: 4262
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 05:20:41 pm »
???????????
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Perfect Windows

  • Posts: 4303
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 05:24:02 pm »
Already looking forward to the next time you complain about a customer not paying you for work done.

Clearly you can't see anything wrong in what you're doing so this will go straight over your head, no doubt.

combat1

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Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 05:24:23 pm »
after many years recruiting sales people Richy my advice would be to be very careful. The term Business Development Manager seems to attract a certain breed who can talk the talk but when it comes to producing the goods its a different story, then they move on and the only loser is you. So set out clearly what you wish to achieve in terms of results and pay only on those results. i.e. make them earn bonus for results.
Good luck mate, hope it works out for you.

richywilts

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Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2012, 05:24:33 pm »
Richy,
You could of advertised for a rep yourself but didn't because of the hassle?
The agency have all the hassle to introduce him to you.
You then do a side deal. Your new rep must be as crooked as you.
Art

ease off mate sure they have got other positions to fill i did explain i wasn't sure if i could afford there deal etc and id be happy if they sent any candidates along to me for a chat to see if they were what i was after

i sent a girl an enquiry over facebook she came down to see me and said she had someone in mind etc and would i be interested in meeting them i agreed, with her package i would be paying £560 a week which i cant afford, im taking a gamble at £10 per hour but ive got a good feeling with this chap
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

combat1

  • Posts: 893
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 05:31:03 pm »
we know your good feelings Richy, be careful mate!

robertphil

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Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2012, 05:51:00 pm »
does he look and sound suitably slimey ? if so ,go ahead .  

i personally would not take on a sales rep if he looked and sounded like a really nice friendly guy,likely would turnout to be a real snake in the grass , better to take on a sneaky looker   in my opinion

Blue Frog Systems

  • Posts: 3813
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2012, 06:06:10 pm »
My friend has a recruitment company. He's just spent £500 sending 3 candidates to an interview ( Newcastle - London ) and the company want all 3 of them. Thing is there refusing to pay the finders fee my mates company is entitled to.

SHAME ON YOU RICHY IF YOU GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PLAN TO SCREW OVER THE COMPANY THAT HELPED YOU FIND THIS GUY !
Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

richywilts

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Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2012, 06:10:58 pm »
id quite happily pay a finders fee to the company just feel bit out of order
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Blue Frog Systems

  • Posts: 3813
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2012, 06:12:03 pm »
Whats out of order ?
Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

Rodger

  • Posts: 8
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2012, 06:12:30 pm »
Didn't they tell you what you'd be paying if he was to be taken on?

George P

  • Posts: 1304
Re: taking on a new sales rep/business development manager for commercials
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2012, 06:12:47 pm »
Richy,
You could of advertised for a rep yourself but didn't because of the hassle?
The agency have all the hassle to introduce him to you.
You then do a side deal. Your new rep must be as crooked as you.
Art

ease off mate sure they have got other positions to fill i did explain i wasn't sure if i could afford there deal etc and id be happy if they sent any candidates along to me for a chat to see if they were what i was after

i sent a girl an enquiry over facebook she came down to see me and said she had someone in mind etc and would i be interested in meeting them i agreed, with her package i would be paying £560 a week which i cant afford, im taking a gamble at £10 per hour but ive got a good feeling with this chap


if you knew you couldnt afford the weekly fees then you should have declined the offer of wasting there time and money in sending someone over to you, its not fair for anyone, im sure you wouldnt like people wasting your time, effort and money.