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john martin

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Ashbys up to more tricks
« on: September 21, 2012, 07:35:52 pm »
 Credit for finding this to Russ Chadd  ;D

  Im gonna have to look at this a few times to see what they're up to , i think they only switch on two vacs on the turbo for cfm test  , but whatever they do the results are nonsense ...

  If i was the guys at cleansmart id be pi$$ed .

And ... the magic CFM gauge is out again ... 200cfm from series 5.7's , just doesn't add up .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Elgr0d8Qw  

Hopefully  cleansmart  get their hands on an Enforcer and make a video of their own .
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Carpet Dawg

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2012, 07:41:20 pm »
Thats underhand!

And also, why did they not test the enforcer agenst the latest Airflex Storm??  ;D
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Russ Chadd

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2012, 08:15:59 pm »
I am one of Ashby's video subscribers on YouTube and this popped up on my email this morning, if the video has given an inaccurate demonstration to the Airflex machine im sure Matt will be calling Ashby's to have words with them...  ;)
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Ferenc G.

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2012, 08:17:49 pm »
Why can't you see the gatevalve on the Turbo?  ;D
I am sure it was closed anyway.
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Len Gribble

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2012, 08:27:30 pm »
Ashby’s did sound superior (like my 135) it only take the waist tank gate valve not seating right not saying it wasn’t.

Some one beat to it ;)
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Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

john martin

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 08:37:38 pm »
Yes i think your right guys , waste gate open ... 
still dont explain the 180cfm for the enforcer ... actually it was 200cfm last week , trick gauge id say .
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jim mca

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 08:41:34 pm »
Opening the gate could explain the turbos figures but not how they got the enforcer up to 200cfm
must say the enforcer looks like the best body being showerproof should be standard on all top portys
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john martin

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 08:52:37 pm »
Quote from: jim mca on September 21, 2012, 08:41:34 pm
Opening the gate could explain the turbos figures but not how they got the enforcer up to 200cfm
must say the enforcer looks like the best body being showerproof should be standard on all top portys

I agree , i like the design and thought that went into it , not sure why they are resorting to these tactics  , could be a publicity stunt ...  as Oscar Wilde said ,
' It's better to be talked about than not talked about at all '
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Len Gribble

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2012, 09:10:49 pm »
John

Like the quote

As most think they are Erik Weisz

We would love to have all three at the same time for a demo, but we haven’t got the time

Slag off sells ;) 
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Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

John Kelly

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2012, 09:11:11 pm »
Isn't one in series and one in parallel. One will give greater lift/vacuum and the other will give greater airflow. So not a valid comparison. Or am I wrong, over to you John Martin you seem to know your stuff about vacuums.
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jim mca

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2012, 09:14:42 pm »
John

What john martin has pointed out is the enforcers cfm should be the same as the powerflite 101cfm
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Kev Loomes

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2012, 09:21:47 pm »
Quote from: John Kelly on September 21, 2012, 09:11:11 pm
Isn't one in series and one in parallel. One will give greater lift/vacuum and the other will give greater airflow. So not a valid comparison. Or am I wrong, over to you John Martin you seem to know your stuff about vacuums.

I agree
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John Kelly

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2012, 09:26:52 pm »
This country went to the dogs a long time ago as far as manufacturing is concerned. Matt Flewitt put his money where his mouth is and came up with what I believe is an excellent designed range of carpet cleaning machines. He should be applauded and supported. He could have just as easily bought in a machine from the USA and re-badged it but no he did it the hard way. Hats off to him.
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john martin

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2012, 09:41:02 pm »

 Agree the Airflex is an excellent design also ...

 I think it should be .

 Airflex turbo - 137" lift  and  about 300 CFM

 Enforcer       -  230" lift and  about 100 CFM
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Carpet Dawg

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2012, 09:47:05 pm »
Quote from: John Kelly on September 21, 2012, 09:26:52 pm
This country went to the dogs a long time ago as far as manufacturing is concerned. Matt Flewitt put his money where his mouth is and came up with what I believe is an excellent designed range of carpet cleaning machines. He should be applauded and supported. He could have just as easily bought in a machine from the USA and re-badged it but no he did it the hard way. Hats off to him.

Like
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jim mca

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2012, 09:50:26 pm »
and me
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Billy Russell

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2012, 10:00:06 pm »
Quote from: John Kelly on September 21, 2012, 09:26:52 pm
This country went to the dogs a long time ago as far as manufacturing is concerned. Matt Flewitt put his money where his mouth is and came up with what I believe is an excellent designed range of carpet cleaning machines. He should be applauded and supported. He could have just as easily bought in a machine from the USA and re-badged it but no he did it the hard way. Hats off to him.

Thats is spot on, I can't believe you thought of that!!! I reckon thats lynn talking  ;)  ;D ;D
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Simon@arenaclean

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2012, 12:42:23 am »
Had a turbo for a couple of years before I got the storm, those figures do not reflect my experience. 100' of 2" hose with sub 200cfm, not a chance. I suspect one manufacturer is doing somewhat better than another and I find that Matt is quite happy to let others get on and do what they do. My thoughts reflect those of Mr Kelly, nuff said.
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jim mca

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2012, 08:57:36 pm »
Is the enforcers body designed and made by ashbys or is it a generic body you could buy and fit out yourself
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john martin

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Re: Ashbys up to more tricks
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2012, 09:11:26 pm »
Quote from: jim mca on September 22, 2012, 08:57:36 pm
Is the enforcers body designed and made by ashbys or is it a generic body you could buy and fit out yourself

In fairness to Ashbys it would seem to be an inhouse design , and one of the best imo
They could have imported the new Ninja warrior i suppose .
I believe its in the mid to high 60's weight wise depending on spec ...
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