[Jim_77]

I reckon a two man team, averaging over a number of jobs, can beat one man and a Tm hands down.

Very interesting point to debate

Depends on several variables I think Rog!

1) Type of work: carpets or upholstery.  TM can be way less than 50% of porty time on carpets, only ever managed to get my suite time down to roughly 2/3 of porty time due to all the stuff done by hand and the faffing around involved

2) The fastidious (or not) nature of whoever's doing the work.  If you don't fuss over spots and little details with either system obviously there's time to be made/lost.  It's easier to be fussy when you're on the end of a machine that can make up time quicker when needed.

3) Size of the jobs.  The longer you're cleaning the more time you're saving with a TM.  I could leave the house at 9am, clean three 3-bed houses on my own and be home before most kids get back from school.  One crazy 12-hour day I worked last December I racked up a turnover figure that was more than I turned over in a month when I first started

[neil 47]

I have been working in a partnership for about six months and the advice i was given was true .

the benefits are im never tired at the end of the day and find we can fit 3 jobs in comfortable between 10 - 3pm .

pepole seem to like two of us as we are done in half the time one carpet can be done in 40 mins its the dwell time that holds us up , we can do a full house in a hour and a half .

its nice to have a different prescriptive on buisness

Down side we dont always see eye to eye and sharing costs and work is complicated at times. but its early days yet and the commercial side is growing which by myself would of took longer .



Neil

[clarkson]

rather than use a number of jobs you need to work to a ££ day rate.

 I work as a 2 man team and we could do 6 small jobs a day but would make more money doing 4 big jobs (which we could do in the same amount of time)

like ian said finding those 6 jobs a day would be the hard bit

hi
mikes right, i believe this is how all business works really. supermarkets dont say we have to sell a million tins of beans or we wont stock  them, they work out what a tin needs to be to make there required profit.

you need to work out your cost base is van costs kit cost wages then what you need to make profit to be happy then its just a number crunch on what proportion of the day you will be on a particular job.

Of course there are limits in this industry, i was thinkin of jims post a few months back where he put in a bill for 500 for a day but this was quite a lot of work he had done. all of which he had done seperately at these prices but together the customer just could nt see past the fact of one man for a day shouldnt be 500.

so more well priced smaller jobs probably hides the fact you are charging a premium. but then you have traveling and setting up time?

this is why i love commercial, if you can get a good price in they simply arent bothered as long as its clean as a rule quicker the better as far as they are concerened.

cheers

john

[Warren Aldridge]

My average commute between jobs is around 20 min. That would be 2 hours over 6 jobs

Setting up and breaking down a porty takes me around an extra 30 minutes per job so that's 3 hours.

5 hours effing about

That's why I swiftly ended 2 men 1 van even though I did it in a TM. 3 jobs on my own is not only more profitable but enables better quality of life over 6 jobs which is just sh*t

That's just my experience