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chris scott

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window cleaning advice please.
« on: July 25, 2012, 07:04:28 pm »
Please dont rip me apart but...
I run a driveway cleaning company.My friend owns a chemical company.I complained that when wash drives i end up withh crap up the windows which is hard to remove even with 3000psi at 15litres per min!!!!
He made a concentrate for me that i spray on first to the windows and doors and then wash off when i have finished easy no crap no streaks and looks like brand new.
My question is why do window cleanerss use the fancy gadgets that purify water etc when the could just plug the poles into a hose pipe and maybe use a small measured amount through the brush head to acheive the same results?
As i say i dont clean windows so i am not aware of the benefits of the purified pole systems but my way seems far simplier. Cheers scotty
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colin purewater

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 07:12:56 pm »
We no were you live  >:(
keep it simple

chris scott

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 07:17:04 pm »
Thanks for the reply .I was looking for something a little more informative.
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gary999

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2012, 07:25:16 pm »
normal water has impurities mineral content etc which leaves mark all over the glass
you purify it to take the impurities out so when the water dries..hey presto no
marks!! :)

i can guarantee no matter what concentrate you use when it dries it will leave
spots and they will be glaringly obvious when the sun hits the glass and even more
obvious looking from the inside

Spruce

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2012, 08:15:13 pm »
Please dont rip me apart but...
I run a driveway cleaning company.My friend owns a chemical company.I complained that when wash drives i end up withh crap up the windows which is hard to remove even with 3000psi at 15litres per min!!!!
He made a concentrate for me that i spray on first to the windows and doors and then wash off when i have finished easy no crap no streaks and looks like brand new.
My question is why do window cleanerss use the fancy gadgets that purify water etc when the could just plug the poles into a hose pipe and maybe use a small measured amount through the brush head to acheive the same results?
As i say i dont clean windows so i am not aware of the benefits of the purified pole systems but my way seems far simplier. Cheers scotty

Hi Chris
I would love a try a sample of some of this chemical. Maybe this is the new way forward and we don't know it yet.
After all, window cleaners used other methods before WFP, so I'm sure there will be another method after deionised water - WFP isn't the final chapter.

Spruce
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The older I get, the better I was ;)

chris scott

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2012, 08:53:04 pm »
I can send you some ...but i have no exact mix ratios. If you are willing to experiment. It has a ph of  8 and contains no caustic so is super safe to use . I does not require any labelling by the hse!!! Can be washed down drains and will not pollute waterways .
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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2012, 09:03:45 pm »
I want something that will kill fish and harm anyone touching water in any form - rain, snow sleet etc.  Even fog, if possible.

Thanks.

chris scott

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2012, 09:21:15 pm »
You dont work on any big jobs then? Otherwise you would realise how much effort has gone into producing products like these. Green products are the only things that are allowed on our shelves now. We are not even allowed lead in pencils! Look around you windmills making electric ,people have there own power stations on the roof (solar) . Whatever next window cleaners with no ladders....chemicals that are biodegradable and work!
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mikecam

Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2012, 09:29:44 pm »
Please dont rip me apart but...
I run a driveway cleaning company.My friend owns a chemical company.I complained that when wash drives i end up withh crap up the windows which is hard to remove even with 3000psi at 15litres per min!!!!
He made a concentrate for me that i spray on first to the windows and doors and then wash off when i have finished easy no crap no streaks and looks like brand new.
My question is why do window cleanerss use the fancy gadgets that purify water etc when the could just plug the poles into a hose pipe and maybe use a small measured amount through the brush head to acheive the same results?
As i say i dont clean windows so i am not aware of the benefits of the purified pole systems but my way seems far simplier. Cheers scotty

I'll get roasted for this too. I've jet washed  a whole house with pure water, never put a brush near it and got perfect results!!!! It was a reclean we done and the jet wash washwas  out for the conny, done quite connys start to finish with the jet wash with perfect results. Got me thinking why anyone needs a brush !!
  Anyway, what you are saying does not make sense to me, although i'll keep an open mind. If something won't shift at 3000 PSI then i'd be suprised if some 'chemical' removed it. Bear in mind we're talking about general crap and your splash up on windows and not dried in spray graffitti etc..
 To answer your question generally, pure water leaves a spotless/clear finish on windows after you given them a light scrub and rinse. Although your way may seem simpler (using a jet lance) in practice overspray would cause problems with neighbours, passers by etc i would imagine, not to mention having to keep to power away from vents etc... But as regards a chemical that leaves a clear/clean finish you may be onto something. In practice i've found simple fairy liquid leaves great results. If you squirt some neat onto a damp cloth a rub a mirror for example, it initially soaps up and does dry to a clear finish. We could well be beiing conned with all this pure water malarkey. Especially since Ionics (i think) pioneered it here !!    ;D ;D
  Maybe we're all missing a trick?

chris scott

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2012, 09:54:11 pm »
I was thinking along the lines of a window cleaning pole and brush set up connected to the homeowners water supply (most people have an outside tap). In conjunction with this a small metering valve (about £15) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRESSURE-WASHER-CHEMICAL-INJECTOR-VENTURE-KARCHER-KEW-/180404108022?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D864226709282674176%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1017%26rk%3D1%26 conected inline dispensing chemical at the given ratio (to be determined).
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mikecam

Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 11:41:58 pm »
I was thinking along the lines of a window cleaning pole and brush set up connected to the homeowners water supply (most people have an outside tap). In conjunction with this a small metering valve (about £15) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRESSURE-WASHER-CHEMICAL-INJECTOR-VENTURE-KARCHER-KEW-/180404108022?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D864226709282674176%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1017%26rk%3D1%26 conected inline dispensing chemical at the given ratio (to be determined).

Anything to do with drive revive and its derivatives, or sure seal /smart seal seems to be bad news . They don't look to be stayers by any means. Are you involved directly or indirectly with any of these companies ?

chris scott

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2012, 07:14:40 am »
Yes when i first started i bought into the whole Smart seal drive cleaning way of thinking.
I also know the lads personally from drive revive. I have learnt  ALOT along the way!
Ask me a question about drive /patio cleaning  ;)
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chris scott

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2012, 07:56:37 pm »

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Anything to do with drive revive and its derivatives, or sure seal /smart seal seems to be bad news . They don't look to be stayers by any means. Are you involved directly or indirectly with any of these companies ?
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Regardless i think smart seal will be here for the duration as they seem to have arapidly expanding setup.
The lads from drive-revive are also doing well with ebay/internet sales of various sealers.
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Spruce

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2012, 09:38:21 pm »
Our neighbour at the back of us turns his pressure washer on his windows and they look alright from the road.
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Crystal-clear

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2012, 11:49:00 pm »
mikecam,

lol was it faster that way ?

a bit more info on that jet wash would be quite fun!

my dream would be to turn up at someones house press a button and splash his front windows then say thats £6 please lol!

Spruce

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Re: window cleaning advice please.
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2012, 08:48:40 am »
mikecam,

lol was it faster that way ?

a bit more info on that jet wash would be quite fun!

my dream would be to turn up at someones house press a button and splash his front windows then say thats £6 please lol!

Don't a lot of guys do that anyway?
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)