[boshravie]

So, is Boshravie paying for this advertising? 
And did Ross have any off you, Bosh? If so, he could give an impartial review.

Hi Griffin
Well to answer your 1st question, yes we are starting to advertise as from 16th August on here.
Answer to you second question, Yes Ross came today and bought one, and I am sure he will be happy with Magica, if not I will be very surprise, because I have been testing Magica for the past year and very happy with it.

[ben M]

you would be better spending money on free samples to people on here than you would paying to advertise on here!  not a lot of people are going to read your advert and be convinced...  but if someone else shouts about it...

what did it cost you to advertise on here?  what would some free samples cost you?  seriously, its simple marketing and if you cant get it right, then youre product has no chance.  no matter how good it is

I will Ask Alex Gardiner if he gave out Free poles  to any member here when he stared his business or Ask Ian Lancaster if he gave free advice on his franchisee , then there is something to think about giving FREE items out  

This guy is a tight arse and a complete idiot. I have never seen or heard of someone so stubborn and so arrogant. I suggested this ages ago. What fool will not send out a few samples bottles in order to increase his business. A WF pole doesnt compare to a bottle of his potion that probably costs him less than a fiver

Its just stupidity !

i can't agree more!  

[boshravie]

You know I have been a member here for few years now, and when ever some one came up with an idea which would benefit us all in so many ways, there was always few who were ready to shoot him down.
Why?
There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross  their life, these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident  and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.

I just hope one day they see the light at the end of the tunnel. 

[Carl@Cwc]

You know I have been a member here for few years now, and when ever some one came up with an idea which would benefit us all in so many ways, there was always few who were ready to shoot him down.
Why?
There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross  their life, these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident  and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.

I just hope one day they see the light at the end of the tunnel. 

some are only trying to help u m8

[Carl@Cwc]

You know I have been a member here for few years now, and when ever some one came up with an idea which would benefit us all in so many ways, there was always few who were ready to shoot him down.
Why?
There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross  their life, these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident  and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.

I just hope one day they see the light at the end of the tunnel. 

some are only trying to help u m8

by the way thats my lost post on magico , i really am too busy "without realising it, till i typed last reply"

speculate with the people who are window cleaners and you will get ur rewards, other than that its hopingg penny pinchers type in your products keywords on ebay.
how many of these u expect to sell to "joe blow versus getting the actual window cleaners using it , is now the case m8)
good luck anyways

[Tom White]

There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross  their life,

Bosh, try looking at it another way; try looking at those who criticise as our teachers.  Maybe they're right, maybe you should give away some free samples and hopefully your product will get some good feedback?  It's called putting your money where your mouth is.  Or at least look upon the criticism as a learning tool to teach you to be less judgemental.

these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident  and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.

You see, you really don't know if the people who criticise you are like what you've typed; unless you've got some special mind-reading powers or something?

[ben M]

There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross  their life,

Bosh, try looking at it another way; try looking at those who criticise as our teachers.  Maybe they're right, maybe you should give away some free samples and hopefully your product will get some good feedback?  It's called putting your money where your mouth is.  Or at least look upon the criticism as a learning tool to teach you to be less judgemental.

these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident  and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.

You see, you really don't know if the people who criticise you are like what you've typed; unless you've got some special mind-reading powers or something?

Well said Tosh! 

[boshravie]

There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross  their life,

Bosh, try looking at it another way; try looking at those who criticise as our teachers.  Maybe they're right, maybe you should give away some free samples and hopefully your product will get some good feedback?  It's called putting your money where your mouth is.  Or at least look upon the criticism as a learning tool to teach you to be less judgemental.

these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident  and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.

You see, you really don't know if the people who criticise you are like what you've typed; unless you've got some special mind-reading powers or something?

Many thanks for you comment tosh

Well as I said earlier, I have gone over my budget on this product and I will hopefully give out samples as and when the product will go in to profit.

I don’t think anyone has the  right to criticize or judge some one else  without knowing that person .

There is a person on here that using a bad language towards me without even know about me or the product. But I am not judgmental about him, because I don’t know him.

I for example would never judge you without knowing you.

[mike roberts]

There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross  their life,

Bosh, try looking at it another way; try looking at those who criticise as our teachers.  Maybe they're right, maybe you should give away some free samples and hopefully your product will get some good feedback?  It's called putting your money where your mouth is.  Or at least look upon the criticism as a learning tool to teach you to be less judgemental.

these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident  and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.

You see, you really don't know if the people who criticise you are like what you've typed; unless you've got some special mind-reading powers or something?

Many thanks for you comment tosh

Well as I said earlier, I have gone over my budget on this product and I will hopefully give out samples as and when the product will go in to profit.

I don’t think anyone has the  right to criticize or judge some one else  without knowing that person .

There is a person on here that using a bad language towards me without even know about me or the product. But I am not judgmental about him, because I don’t know him.

I for example would never judge you without knowing you.

You seem to be missing ... 'Big time' the whole point of free samples.
If the product is that good it will confirm it to your customers and build up the trust which you need! Really a no brainer.

Cancel the advert on here and redirect funds. With so many chems on the market, which we have all tried to simply say ours is great is useless, as for cheap vids for myself total waste of time. As a supplier I assume you provide required docs ie data sheets etc.

[sunshine windows]

Brick wall and head banging spring to mind.

[Richard iSparkle]

There are people who always are ready to criticize every one who come a cross  their life,

Bosh, try looking at it another way; try looking at those who criticise as our teachers.  Maybe they're right, maybe you should give away some free samples and hopefully your product will get some good feedback?  It's called putting your money where your mouth is.  Or at least look upon the criticism as a learning tool to teach you to be less judgemental.

these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident  and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.

You see, you really don't know if the people who criticise you are like what you've typed; unless you've got some special mind-reading powers or something?

Many thanks for you comment tosh

Well as I said earlier, I have gone over my budget on this product and I will hopefully give out samples as and when the product will go in to profit.

I don’t think anyone has the  right to criticize or judge some one else  without knowing that person .

There is a person on here that using a bad language towards me without even know about me or the product. But I am not judgmental about him, because I don’t know him.

I for example would never judge you without knowing you.

You seem to be missing ... 'Big time' the whole point of free samples.
If the product is that good it will confirm it to your customers and build up the trust which you need! Really a no brainer.

Cancel the advert on here and redirect funds.

exactly!  it will work out cheaper for you to give out free samples then let the WCs sing the products praises, than advertising traditionally.  and i believe, you will get a far better response.

[daniel worgan]

I must admit i dont think you are grasping the fact that the best advertisement you can have is recommendations,and in your case you can start the ball rolling by quite simply sending out a few samples to wc's who use this type of chemical (which there are many) on a regular basis.
All that balls about running over budget is total crap as you know that if your product is recommended then the orders will start flowing in or alternatively you will have stock laying around.
I wouldn't mind betting that you have just bought a couple of cases of the stuff just to try your luck and hope that you could sell to a few on this forum.If you have genuinly invested in the product big time then a few samples wont hurt you supplies will it?  
And by the way i hope that you have found a miracle for those stubborn stains on upvc,as i have tried various grades of industrial cleaners throughout the years and some only just come up to scratch....good luck though.
 

[Perfect Windows]

I don’t think anyone has the  right to criticize or judge some one else  without knowing that person .

these people have fear of unknown, lack of self confident  and lack of knowledge, therefore all they try to do is criticize and if you look deeply in their life you see they are always sadness inside.

Erm...

[roundbuilder]

Bosh send out 10 free samples and let the samplers do a review on the product. If reviews are good they hey presto your business will have had a perfect start.

If you come on here being a tight Arse know it all who knows nothing then it will be a different story altogether.
I myself only use pure but have in the past used cillit bang which restored crap mucky frames with ease. Its not as if you have a new Pole or system invented is it. Think ots going over your head the importance of advertising properly.

[Halfadaylee]

Bosh send out 10 free samples and let the samplers do a review on the product. If reviews are good they hey presto your business will have had a perfect start.

If you come on here being a tight Arse know it all who knows nothing then it will be a different story altogether.
I myself only use pure but have in the past used cillit bang which restored crap mucky frames with ease. Its not as if you have a new Pole or system invented is it. Think ots going over your head the importance of advertising properly.

FREE, the man wont sleep
As he says Gardiners do not give anything away for free. (apart from hose cutters, caps and those things that you use in climbing, I used mine to shackle the Mrs to the sink)
They do however have fantastic customer service that would be a cost that's factered in.
I'm sure with your sales and business skills like Gardiners your onto a winner, fill your boots
]Art

[G Griffin]

One thing Boshravie has grasped is how to advertise for free  .
And you're all helping  .

[boshravie]

One thing Boshravie has grasped is how to advertise for free  .
And you're all helping  .

Thanks Griffin for letting my secret out 

[Slash]

This one we did today, notice how easy and quick this window was cleaned and sparkeled  


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCYt3eEWYZY&feature=plcp

Notice how quick and easy no offence but my 14 year old daughter could trade that window and have it just as clean in half the time

[SPE]

Bosh, I was hoping Ross may have left his opinions on your "mr magica" stuff by now, a mate wants me to clean his campervan at the weekend ( covered in algae and bird crap ) . He's gonna be paying for whatever I use anyhow, am I too late to grab a bottle before your holiday break ? I'm in Brighton too , you know me to say hello to ( gleam team ) , Simon 

[G Griffin]

One thing Boshravie has grasped is how to advertise for free  .
And you're all helping  .

Thanks Griffin for letting my secret out 

Sorry, Bosh  .........but I take my hat off to you; it's not my money, anyway.
And I'm going to blow your other secret for you. Rosskesava is on Bosh's payroll  .
That was a joke  .