[AshWhite]

For those with TMs, looking at this hypothetical job sheet, at which points would you refill your fresh water tank? Assuming average soil, average size, PP carpets.

1)Lounge, HSL, 3 beds
2)Lounge, stairs
3)Lounge, stairs
4)Lounge, HSL
5)Lounge, HSL 2 beds

For me, it would be after job 2, and after job 4 (to be on the safe side).

Also, do you travel back home to refill as required or do you have another method for filling up when you're out and about?

[Kev Loomes]

Probably after job 3 and that would do all the jobs.

Most TM'ers carry a hose pipe on a reel to simply connect up to a tap (preferably outside but inside if required. An assortment of tap connectors is the order of the day!

I suppose it depends on a few things i.e. what size tank etc but what makes it beneficial for me is that my heat overflow (return) goes to my fresh tank as opposed to the traditional waste tank - thus making my water last longer

[AshWhite]

Kev, mine goes to waste tank - is that something that can be changed?

[Kev Loomes]

Yes!

[AshWhite]

What are the downfalls, I'm assuming there must be some or this is the way they would all be as standard?

[peter maybury]

Ash if you want to have chat I could sort it out for you. The dissadvantage is that your clean water tank will get progressively warmer. This could shorten the life of the pump that fills your header tank. But I know a lot of people that do this without a problem. It only becomes a problem when the machine is running low on water or if you are running the machine without using water. You could put a higher temperature thermovalve in but you need to understand the consequences.  Give me a call if you want to discuss it. It is always prudent to make sure you have sufficient water to carry out the job you are doing.
Most of the time our descision on whent to fill is not only what work we have but how easy it is to take water on board.

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com

[The Carpet Cleaning Pro]

For me it would be after 3rd job. I have a 250ltr tank and use an inline presprayer and run at 300-400 psi at 210-240 degrees F which on most is one wet pass only.

As for filling up, where needed I would use customers hose pipe to simply just top up fresh water tank. I have also another hose where I can simply direct feed the machine from the hose.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

i wouldnt one fill should do the lot but thats the best thing about haveing a 1200 lt tank 

[AshWhite]

1200 litres? What van is that in?

Peter, I'll speak to you some time this week - I think this is something I will look into. At the moment, I'm filling my tank up last thing/first thing, and just about every other job. I don't carry a hose to fill from customers house - although it does force me to plan my days better, grouping local jobs together where possible.

[Jim_77]

How come you don't carry a fresh water filling hose Ash

I would be the same as Kev I think, depending on the soil conditions and sizes obviously. With a 320L tank I could probably get job 4 done before a fill up, if none of them were mingers.  One of the good things about blueline machines, no dumping

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

I would only need to fill if none of the customers had an easily accessible outside tap.

On any decent size jobs I bypass the tank by attaching a hose to the header, no transfer pump needed and less weight to carry.

Cheers

Doug

[jon barnes]

i wouldnt one fill should do the lot but thats the best thing about haveing a 1200 lt tank 

Is your van not a tiny bit over weight?

[AshWhite]

How come you don't carry a fresh water filling hose Ash

I have no idea. It maybe because I've just gone into my second year, and up til recently haven't really had to book that many jobs into a single day - I was trying to book a max of 2 jobs per day and spreading the work throughout the week. As it's getting busier, I can see that I'm going to need to make some changes to my preparation work.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

i wouldnt one fill should do the lot but thats the best thing about haveing a 1200 lt tank 

Is your van not a tiny bit over weight?

lol one is when full but i have that covered ,  the others a twin wheeled transit so that fine with a pay load of 4 tonne ,
 
the ldv fully watered up  and chems is 311 kg over weight    but i say i got that covered you just need to think over ways round this and we did when getting the van built

 please lets not go on and on about the law as i am sure most of you put your foot down and go over 70mph some days so same old same old

[CARPET KNIGHTS]

Susan do you mean a 4 tonne payload or 4 tonne gross weight?

311 kg over weight is rediculous, and to be so flippant about it is just totally disrespectful. I hope its not my kid crossing the road when you cant stop your overloaded van.

[Buckland]

I looked at getting a bigger van the Renault Mascot as there was a company near me had a small fleet of them for disposal at great prices - they go up to 6.5 t gvw I believe, but you need special plated mot test and a tacho has to be installed - just decided not worth all the extra hassle in the end - they don't look any bigger than a lwb and they are the same as an Iveco model - but you could carry your whole business on one van and be full of water and never have to unload all that stuff you don't carry that you sometimes need...

BTW I agree Goron its a risk knowing you are well overweight - there are free public weighbridges who will give you a verbal weight just by asking - and mr nicknick likes an easy nick...

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

Susan do you mean a 4 tonne payload or 4 tonne gross weight?

311 kg over weight is rediculous, and to be so flippant about it is just totally disrespectful. I hope its not my kid crossing the road when you cant stop your overloaded van.

well so you have never broken the speed limit then  in your van , never parked your truck mount on a comer us to do that quick job , never thought oh ill just put my pipe down here and open the van door ?
 never answered your phone when driveing  ??

sorry your god you have never done any thing wrong in your life !

and i bet you speed more in your van then ive overloaded my van , ??

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

I looked at getting a bigger van the Renault Mascot as there was a company near me had a small fleet of them for disposal at great prices - they go up to 6.5 t gvw I believe, but you need special plated mot test and a tacho has to be installed - just decided not worth all the extra hassle in the end - they don't look any bigger than a lwb and they are the same as an Iveco model - but you could carry your whole business on one van and be full of water and never have to unload all that stuff you don't carry that you sometimes need...

BTW I agree Goron its a risk knowing you are well overweight - there are free public weighbridges who will give you a verbal weight just by asking - and mr nicknick likes an easy nick...

the transit jumbo we have is a twin wheeler i am sure its plated at 4.5 tonne , yes its as a tacho fitted which realy no probs to a carpet cleaner not unless your first jobs 300 miles away , were quict lucky that we already have an o.c. licence so it just a case of adding thing on it

but if the hubby didnt have the o.c.l. i woundnt have it not worth the chew ,  we had a six mouth old van sat doing northing so i nicked it off him 

[CARPET KNIGHTS]

I'm sorry Susan but you are trying to justify being drastically overweight by saying that we all speed.

Your van is needlessly overweight at the risk of killing pedestrians. Why the need for so much water when you could just fit a hose pipe and fill up at customers home.