[Carpet Dawg]

Been doing alot of rugs recently and I think this tool would be a good way of saturating the buggers

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jet-A-Way-Water-Broom-Patio-Driveway-Jet-Water-Spray-Fast-Effective-Cleaning-/280919238791?pt=UK_Paving_Decking&hash=item4168176887

good price too.

[Jim_77]

Saturating, as in getting them wet, OK.... but you do that by other means.

Absolutely no good as a cleaning/rinsing process, you simply don't have the pressure from a hose pipe to do that.  The picture makes it look really powerful but in reality you'll need an industrial pressure washer to belt out all that water.  It would p!ss out a little dribble connected to most domestic supplies.

If you want to give rugs the fully monty the only way is with a 3,000psi power washer, anything less simply won't be good enough except for maybe very thin rugs

[Mike Halliday]

I'm sure  Dave used one of them to rinse out the rugs on his demo on the last sunny day out, he connected it to a power washer .

[Steve Chapman]

Looks ideal, think I will get one,
Cheers
Steve

[Paul Moss]

Yep they are ideal, but as above connect to pressure washer. The one on ebay is connected to a washer even though they make out a tap is powerfull enough.

[Tony Gill Carpet Smart]

This is more like the thing Dave had or they do a cheaper aluminium one, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Broom-4-Nozzle-Pressure-Washer-Stainless-Steel-Ideal-Patio-Cleaner-NEW-/140660290739?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BIEW%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D200733046449%26ps%3D54

[Len Gribble]

Tony

Correct Dave had I’ve got now £20quid

[Simon Gerrard]

3,000 psi. Crickey, won't that shatter the pile?

Simon

[*Hector*]

3,000 psi. Crickey, won't that shatter the your piles?

Simon

corrected your typo again Simon 

brings a tear to the eye 

[Jim_77]

Simon,

Titan 875 with 750 CFM - won't that rip the carpet off the floor?!

Answer to both: In the wrong hands maybe, in the right hands just a powerful tool that allows the operator to do the job more effectively in less time

You don't hold the nozzle right down on the rug, you hold it above so the jet's fan pattern is 3 or 4 inches wide, sometimes higher up if it's a thinner rug, sometimes lower down if it's a thick chunky Chines jobbie for example, which will in no way harm it as long as you're washing with the pile not against it.  The impact of the jet dramatically reduces just by holding it another couple of inches higher.  Yes you would blow a hole in a very thin rug that had a weak backing, if you held the jet right down low.

I did a couple of those big Chinese ones the other day - on the drive at the front of my house!  It's busy with dog walkers and parents back and forth  from the school round the corner and I got a lot of gone-out stares from people!!

Total PITA getting them dry in this weather though, been correcting fringe browning on these

[colin fitch]

Jim,

Better add a centrifuge to the list mate 

colin.

[Simon Gerrard]

Jim,The Titan is designed with that level of performance specifically for the purpose of cleaning carpets.
3,000 psi is what they use to clean concrete, just seems a bit excessive given that it is a rug. Watched some videos on the TI method but they rinse them down with a standard hose, which makes more sense.

http://www.acleanerworldcarpetcleaning.com/RugCleaning.aspx
Simon

[Jim_77]

I watched a video on carpet cleaning and they rinsed them off with a puzzi

Pressure out of a hose pipe is not sufficient to rinse soil away from most rugs.  Until you've done it don't knock it

[Simon Gerrard]

So those specialist rug cleaners that do it all day everyday are wrong, are they?
I've seen quite a few rug cleaning plants in the states that operate like factories but never saw them brutalising a rug with 3000 psi in the name of rinsing when if you release the soil by other means there is no need.
Simon

[Brendan (chem2clean)]

Has anyone used the system the yanks use,the pits,submerge the rug in a pit full of water and then rinse.
just cleaned 15 rugs in the chem2clean depot,my kitchen and front garden,complete pain to dry.

[Jim_77]

Colin, seriously considering it but my garage is too full!!!

Simon, some would consider a truckmount "brutalising" but we know better don't we

Let's say with a power washer you put 100 litres of water through a rug to wash it.  With just a hose pipe at mains pressure you could put 1,000 litres of water on to it but it still would not have the same rinsing effect as the power washer.

Until you've done it don't try to knock it, because you don't understand it   

A bit like me saying you could just bonnet buff the Queen Mary, your Titan is overkill

[Jim_77]

p.s. could the mods pls edit those links that push the page width out,  as my monitor is not 25ft wide

[Simon Gerrard]

Jim,
The 'art' of doing this job is understanding that you use only the amount of force, whether that be chemical ,or mechanical to effect a result that is in direct relationship to how dirty something is and not simply 'blunder busing' it because it seems like a good idea, which appears to be your approach.
We look after some very expensive rugs, some as much as £150 psm and although they are subject to very heavy use, far more than a domestic rug, we can make them look fantastic without resorting to extreme measures and hence my sceptissm to your approach to the same problem.
How on earth do you get a rug dry having jet washed it on your drive and not have a centrifuge?

Simon

[Jim_77]

As much as £150/m²     Must be a lot of Ikeas and Dunelms round your way

The ones I've got in at the moment are around £300/m² and I regularly handle rugs probably worth £1k/m²

The 'art' of doing this job is understanding that you use only the amount of force, whether that be chemical ,or mechanical to effect a result that is in direct relationship to how dirty something is

Quite correct.

'blunder busing' it because it seems like a good idea, which appears to be your approach.

Couldn't be more wrong.  In the last few months I have probably cleaned 100 rugs but have saturation cleaned about 8 of them.

The problem is Simon you have obviously never done this sort of cleaning before; therefore you do not know what is involved and consequently you dismiss it out of hand because you simply don't understand it

Clearly you know very little about specialist rug cleaning.....a centrifuge will not dry a rug any more than a truckmount and wand, extracting both sides very slowly.  It's the drying setup that makes the difference.  The centrifuge just makes things quicker, especially one that conducts the rinse process at the same time.

Come back and preach to me about rug cleaning when you've got a specialist qualification

http://www.masterrugcleaner.net/master-rug-cleaners/members?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=0&sobi2Id=44

[Jim_77]

Oh by the way phone up Dave L and tell him he's been doing it wrong for 30 years

Let me know how it goes