if you have hot how often do you use it?

« **on:** June 18, 2012, 05:22:31 pm »

Just interested to know how much use your hot system gets over the year..

If commenting please let us know which hot system you have and roughly its running cost per week.

We will be going hot later in the year but i dont see it making much difference on regular cleans.

« **Reply #1 on:** June 18, 2012, 05:55:29 pm »

Hi lee i got my van kitted out with hot last december and we have only used it for facia cleans, havnt used it on the windows at all, no need to.

« **Reply #2 on:** June 18, 2012, 06:09:11 pm »

fogwash, haven't fired it up since Chritmas

« **Reply #3 on:** June 18, 2012, 06:10:12 pm »

i the full concept 2O hotwash system and use hot on every clean, every day. we get more complaints when we use cold only... especially when i have staff cleaners cleaning instead of me

« **Reply #4 on:** June 18, 2012, 06:15:03 pm »

fogwash, use it all the time. Cost very little to run. Depends on how hot you have it and the price of gas at the time.maybe £1 a day?

« **Reply #5 on:** June 18, 2012, 06:24:42 pm »

Quote from: richard speech on June 18, 2012, 06:10:12 pm

i the full concept 2O hotwash system and use hot on every clean, every day. we get more complaints when we use cold only... especially when i have staff cleaners cleaning instead of me

I never understand this. I have had 2 complaints in 2 years. How many do you get using cold water?

« **Reply #6 on:** June 18, 2012, 06:44:57 pm »

Quote from: richard speech on June 18, 2012, 06:10:12 pm

i the full concept 2O hotwash system and use hot on every clean, every day. we get more complaints when we use cold only... especially when i have staff cleaners cleaning instead of me

This is interesting because I do have staff and do get complaints. When we go hot im hoping it wont speed us up but will give better consistency of finish. Also these big leaflet campaigns are great but the sheer amount of first cleans and con roofs gets hard going so im hoping it will take the strain off that to.

Also as we get bigger the odd day lost to temp in the winter will cost me more and more so this year is the time for us to take the plunge with going hot

« **Reply #7 on:** June 18, 2012, 06:58:29 pm »

Quote from: lee pryor on June 18, 2012, 06:44:57 pm

Quote from: richard speech on June 18, 2012, 06:10:12 pm
i the full concept 2O hotwash system and use hot on every clean, every day. we get more complaints when we use cold only... especially when i have staff cleaners cleaning instead of me

This is interesting because I do have staff and do get complaints. When we go hot im hoping it wont speed us up but will give better consistency of finish. Also these big leaflet campaigns are great but the sheer amount of first cleans and con roofs gets hard going so im hoping it will take the strain off that to.

Also as we get bigger the odd day lost to temp in the winter will cost me more and more so this year is the time for us to take the plunge with going hot

its not cold that leaves windows bad, its the user, weve had cold on all our vans since 2003 and very rarely get complaints, if getting complaints regularly then staff need retraining, we would look at hot but only for 1st cleans or jobs that are done on a 3 monthly cycle or less often, other than that i dont think its needed (maybe winter time)

« **Reply #8 on:** June 18, 2012, 07:01:37 pm »

purefreedom cost me about a fiver a day to run use everyday.

« **Reply #9 on:** June 18, 2012, 07:17:09 pm »

« **Reply #10 on:** June 18, 2012, 07:17:12 pm »

Quote from: Mark Etting on June 18, 2012, 06:09:11 pm

fogwash, haven't fired it up since Chritmas

ditto, but have an L5

« **Reply #11 on:** June 18, 2012, 07:34:40 pm »

Quote from: Steve Sed on June 18, 2012, 06:24:42 pm

Quote from: richard speech on June 18, 2012, 06:10:12 pm
i the full concept 2O hotwash system and use hot on every clean, every day. we get more complaints when we use cold only... especially when i have staff cleaners cleaning instead of me

I never understand this. I have had 2 complaints in 2 years. How many do you get using cold water?

we clean very fast, and i employ guys to do the cleaning. it means that the difference between fast but good and fast but not good enough is slim so on a bad day, say if the employee had a night out... they might get sloppy.

maybe on average we get 1 complaint per month.

« **Reply #12 on:** June 18, 2012, 08:29:19 pm »

That would be an average of 1 complaint per month too many for me.

« **Reply #13 on:** June 18, 2012, 09:11:49 pm »

concept 2 0 hot water system costs about 8 pounds per week to run.

« **Reply #14 on:** June 18, 2012, 09:17:48 pm »

Quote from: ARWindows on June 18, 2012, 09:11:49 pm

concept 2 0 hot water system costs about 8 pounds per week to run.

costs me about £12 a week. guess it depends on how many houses you clean a week tho

« **Reply #15 on:** June 18, 2012, 11:20:32 pm »

we get about one complaint or re clean per 100 cleans so 1%. I dont think thats bad and I dont think my staff need re training. I do however think that the public are getting more and more petty as the years go on. I have high standards and expect a good job if im paying for things in my life but some people really do take the pee in the things they complain about, so im just looking at reducing those chances

« **Reply #16 on:** June 19, 2012, 05:38:37 am »

Quote from: lee pryor on June 18, 2012, 11:20:32 pm

we get about one complaint or re clean per 100 cleans so 1%. I dont think thats bad and I dont think my staff need re training. I do however think that the public are getting more and more petty as the years go on. I have high standards and expect a good job if im paying for things in my life but some people really do take the pee in the things they complain about, so im just looking at reducing those chances

Lee I cant coment on the original post in regards to the running costs.

But you know full well that customers are always going to complain over anything more so when they are new cleans
I know what your saying about first cleans, we are doing a lot of these right now and have been for months they are draining.

I only have cold systems, I was put off of hot by 2 companies that sell it including pure20 as they left spots all over my windows not the best advert, not to say I would not convert I just cant see the financial gain or benefits to the customer as I am quite particular when I train my staff

cold or hot if the staff member is sloppy they will get problems I would say more so with hot as it will soften more around the frames then factor in breaks to glass more so in very cold weather.
I encourage feedback from customers good or bad so we can learn from it

« **Reply #17 on:** June 19, 2012, 06:15:47 am »

I'm sure this will bring words of scorn from the guys who have paid lots for a hot water system, but I use an immersion heater in the winter only, keeps it fom freezing.

I've only had 2 complaints in 9 years and one of those was someone who didn't want to admit she was skint.

« **Reply #18 on:** June 19, 2012, 07:03:03 am »

I use a propane caravan heater every day and it cost around £56 per month to run (2x19 kg bottles)

I reckon you can get the same results on the glass with 1/4-1/3 less scrubbing.

« **Reply #19 on:** June 19, 2012, 07:11:34 am »

I'd like to watch how you hot guys scrub, I can't see how you can scrub less on maintenance cleans

I honestly believe you are all wasting your money on lightly soiled windows.
We can't see the dirt being removed and can't always see the results so I don't see how you can gauge your scrubbing times.

Sorry

Poll

How often do you use hot