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Lee Burbidge

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Pricing
« on: June 04, 2012, 12:18:27 pm »
How do you price up your jobs? Square metre rate, guesswork, experienced guesswork, £1.00 per hole plus weighting??

Perfect Windows

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2012, 12:33:20 pm »
By house type: 3-bed semi, detached, terrace, flat, etc, plus a chunk for a conservatory.  Simple and effective.

Vin

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2012, 12:47:19 pm »
By house type: 3-bed semi, detached, terrace, flat, etc, plus a chunk for a conservatory.  Simple and effective.

Vin

Hey Vin, so no matter how many windows you have a price for a semi, right like £9.00 right?

Paul H

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2012, 12:58:47 pm »
anyone use a quote caluclator?

I have a spread sheet im starting use ..

1. you input your hourly rate you seek to achieve £30 £40 £50 whatever...

2. input travel time (eg 20mins)

3. Input set up time (eg 3 mins)

4. Input job time ( e.g 20mins etc etc... )

then it calculates the cost of the job... to the penny



Perfect Windows

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2012, 01:02:05 pm »
By house type: 3-bed semi, detached, terrace, flat, etc, plus a chunk for a conservatory.  Simple and effective.

Vin

Hey Vin, so no matter how many windows you have a price for a semi, right like £9.00 right?

£16 or £24!

I ask a series of questions when they call.  One of those is "Is it what I'd call a standard semi?".  If they say "yes" then it's that price.  So, I have some seriously big semis for that price and some pitifully small ones.  It all evens out.

If they say it's unusual, I do the first clean for the standard price then discuss the future price.  That way I very rarely have to waste time visiting to give a price.

Full details at: http://www.perfect-windows.co.uk/pwpricing.html

Vin

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2012, 01:13:36 pm »
anyone use a quote caluclator?

I have a spread sheet im starting use ..

1. you input your hourly rate you seek to achieve £30 £40 £50 whatever...

2. input travel time (eg 20mins)

3. Input set up time (eg 3 mins)

4. Input job time ( e.g 20mins etc etc... )

then it calculates the cost of the job... to the penny




Is that something you did yourself or you bought? What if you have 5 houses in a row do you still charge travel?

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2012, 01:15:35 pm »
By house type: 3-bed semi, detached, terrace, flat, etc, plus a chunk for a conservatory.  Simple and effective.

Vin

Hey Vin, so no matter how many windows you have a price for a semi, right like £9.00 right?

£16 or £24!


I ask a series of questions when they call.  One of those is "Is it what I'd call a standard semi?".  If they say "yes" then it's that price.  So, I have some seriously big semis for that price and some pitifully small ones.  It all evens out.

If they say it's unusual, I do the first clean for the standard price then discuss the future price.  That way I very rarely have to waste time visiting to give a price.

Full details at: http://www.perfect-windows.co.uk/pwpricing.html

Vin

Yeah I guess that would make things a lot simply ( just looked on your web)

Re: Pricing
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2012, 01:24:06 pm »
I use a variety of methods, if it's me quoting I look at the job and I know how long or hard the work is and quote accordingly, there is also a travelling element.

I also do a day rate, this is simple just £300 per man per day with free travel

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2012, 01:37:46 pm »
I use a variety of methods, if it's me quoting I look at the job and I know how long or hard the work is and quote accordingly, there is also a travelling element.

I also do a day rate, this is simple just £300 per man per day with free travel

Hey whats a day to you? 6 or 8 hrs?

Re: Pricing
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 01:47:56 pm »
It depends on the job but normally it's from 10 to 6

Lee Burbidge

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2012, 01:50:27 pm »
It depends on the job but normally it's from 10 to 6

Yeah, I get it.... your working on 300 for 8 hours work. Cool!

Paul H

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2012, 05:04:36 pm »
anyone use a quote caluclator?

I have a spread sheet im starting use ..

1. you input your hourly rate you seek to achieve £30 £40 £50 whatever...

2. input travel time (eg 20mins)

3. Input set up time (eg 3 mins)

4. Input job time ( e.g 20mins etc etc... )

then it calculates the cost of the job... to the penny




Is that something you did yourself or you bought? What if you have 5 houses in a row do you still charge travel?

The travel time gets divided between the 5 houses..

Think to price right and well.. travel time has to be factored in... just my opinion though.. works ok for me...and i'm just new to this service but its how i want it to work so im not leaving myself short changed..


GDwindowcleaning

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2012, 05:08:47 pm »
Just an observation, do you think your customers should pay for travelling time? Do you think they would be happy to know they are paying more cos they live further from your house?

Paul H

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2012, 05:18:44 pm »
Just an observation, do you think your customers should pay for travelling time? Do you think they would be happy to know they are paying more cos they live further from your house?

Let be realistic here.. travelling costs time & Fuel (if you employ someone then when they are travelling you are still paying their wage).. who fund this???.... we all know its its customer.

Costs asscoiated with equipement producing water etc... ... who pays this??... the customer..

Then the actually labour time on the job... who pays this???... the customer..

I agree the more compact the work the less travel .. costs etc...

But to look at just plucking prices out the air and taking into account all of the above is short sighted IMO and not good business sense...

Thats how i structure my pricing ... it may not work for all but thought i'd just share how use my structure..

king marko

Re: Pricing
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2012, 08:12:49 pm »
Dont like pricing blind unless I definitely know the area and houses involved
Sometimes I'll go on a quid a window but generally nowadays I've got to a point where I know how long the house will take (give or take a few mins :)) and so price them based on what I want to earn and what my current prices are for that area
I work in several towns and villages fairly close to me - one town in particular I charge a lot more for a standard 3bed semi than in my own home town So it's difficult to have a standard 'overall' price

GDwindowcleaning

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2012, 08:16:23 pm »
Hi Paul

Yes the customer pays for all this but do you charge more for houses that are further away?

Re: Pricing
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2012, 08:31:41 pm »
300 for six hours should be better I go for the time about a pound a min for domestics A counsel house without a conny should take about eight mins

Re: Pricing
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2012, 08:39:57 pm »
Hi Paul

Yes the customer pays for all this but do you charge more for houses that are further away?

It all depends on what the job is and do I already work the area, at the moment my furtherest job is 120 miles away, its an all day event so I don't charge extra, but I do have some that are 20 to 30 miles away and these are small jobs, so they carry a travelling time element to the price.

Paul H

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2012, 09:49:46 pm »
Hi Paul

Yes the customer pays for all this but do you charge more for houses that are further away?

basically yes...as the more you travel the more the cost...its simple ( i undesrtand if you get more clients in that area then its more beneficial on you and the customer) all my clieants are within 5 miles of my home at the mo

What youve got remember we provide a professional service and have overheads etc.. depending on the services you provide you charge accordingly... I have set myself a min job price of £10... my lowest at the mo is £12.. its 2 mins from my house and is an upstairs flat...i have 3 in the same street ... all boxed off within an hour...all happy with the price too

Thing is would i look better if i had 6 in the street for £6???... i would get the same money ... think thats the problem with some... they have the volume of work but its pried low... why clean 100 houses for £6... when yiu can clean 50 for £12... ( even a 100 for £12)...

I price what i price ... they either take it or leave it mate...

I also find the work i pick up want a quality service .. with good communication skills / service etc etc... and are happy to pay the price... 

i dont compete on price i make that clear... i prefer to focus on quality...

Those with access issues are informed when i'll be coming etc... its those little things that matter and make them feel special to you ... therefore no issue with the cost...   

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: Pricing
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2012, 10:55:50 pm »
Hi Paul

Yes the customer pays for all this but do you charge more for houses that are further away?

basically yes...as the more you travel the more the cost...its simple ( i undesrtand if you get more clients in that area then its more beneficial on you and the customer) all my clieants are within 5 miles of my home at the mo

What youve got remember we provide a professional service and have overheads etc.. depending on the services you provide you charge accordingly... I have set myself a min job price of £10... my lowest at the mo is £12.. its 2 mins from my house and is an upstairs flat...i have 3 in the same street ... all boxed off within an hour...all happy with the price too

Thing is would i look better if i had 6 in the street for £6???... i would get the same money ... think thats the problem with some... they have the volume of work but its pried low... why clean 100 houses for £6... when yiu can clean 50 for £12... ( even a 100 for £12)...

I price what i price ... they either take it or leave it mate...

I also find the work i pick up want a quality service .. with good communication skills / service etc etc... and are happy to pay the price... 

i dont compete on price i make that clear... i prefer to focus on quality...

Those with access issues are informed when i'll be coming etc... its those little things that matter and make them feel special to you ... therefore no issue with the cost...   

i like your style pual, you sound very professional mate! carry on doing what your doing sir!

george