[garybristow]

if you use a tm take into acount the fuel you are using ,you could easily do £60 notes on that job
gary

[peter maybury]

I have 2 x von schrader machines and have used all the different systems on the market and in all honesty and from experience of when the cinemas, hotels, and restaurants want their seats doing and the soil state present, I cannot see any quicker way of doing it than with a truckmount without cutting the standard that a truckmount can give.  It is the same as low moisture cleaning if you are faced with dirty greasy carpets then to get a good result low moisture takes just as long as wanding.
Operations vary in their productivity and what may seem a massive job to one, is just a normal days work to another. I am lucky enough to have all the diffeent methods at my disposal and can cut the cost of the job considerably by using methods other than truckmounting but the important thing is getting the result and my time is a very precious commodity.

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

i would do it for a pound a seat job done in a day job sorted 

[Jamie Pearson]

White nylon pad
Enzyme Carpet Shampoo  - Energizer & Traffic Lane Cleaner Boosted
Loads of towels

GO

... remember to wear gloves

To be fair I have never owned a truckmount so cant say if the above would give better results or not. All I can go on is the fact that I have been paid for the previous work without any problems and I was pleased with the results.

[Johnny Czarnota]

I charged £3 for regular chair with sitting and back pad (front only) and it was great price for the customer. My back was killing me and I only done 120 of them. I would tell them £5 and offered %15-20% off

[peter maybury]

the heat of a truckmount cannot be underestimated, in cinemas apart from the soft drink spills, chewing gum, hard boiled sweets, etc. If you are not extracting at temperature then you are going back over to get the required result. With a truckmount you can do a cinema seat in a couple of minutes but once done it it dusted. We have a lot of dilemas on a lot of jobs where you might get an area amongst a lot of areas that is just not going to respond to low moisture and by the time you look at how to overcome that and how long the solution will put on the job, we just use the truckmount. I would love to just skim over everything quickly and effortlessly but sometime that is not possible. The other thing with having ongoing contracts for years is if you do not do it properly one time it will be a lot harder the next time you do it.

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com

[Richard Basey-Fisher]

i do a cinema on a fairly reg basis seats are hard work if your using a tm take a helper to move hoses etc . I have got it down to a fine art now but the first time i did them was a real pain job . people will tell you all sorts of price figures but £5 a seat i think you would be very lucky to get this . £1.5 to 3 would be more realistic

[Hilton]

I would say you have little or no chance of getting £5 a seat especially if its one of the major chains, we did a few Odeons and the most we could prise from their clenched fists was £1.50.

We gave them up, the Poles took it over a £0.50 per seat and used damp sponges and clothes to clean them, Odeon did not care, it was all just down to cost and the end of the day.

By the way Odeon on grounds of safety would never have allowed a TM to operate unless we had employed about 10 hose watchers, it may be different in different areas but certainly in ours it was portables only.

Good luck, get a back brace to wear your are going to need it 

[Jamie Pearson]

Odeon did not care, it was all just down to cost and the end of the day

Some real good posts in this thread. As Peter says if you are going to get repeat work from it then the time invested will pay off in the long route.

If they are looking for a freshen up, which has been my experience, other methods can be employed.

On any commercial I would be quoting for the cost to keep them clean for a year rather than a one off wonder. This is a good habit to get into. Whether it be carpets, upholstery, floors I always offer them the one off and a cost for the initial clean + ongoing maintenance weighting the quotation so that with the maintenance the initial clean cost is spread out over the coming months/quarters.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

White nylon pad
Enzyme Carpet Shampoo  - Energizer & Traffic Lane Cleaner Boosted
Loads of towels

GO

... remember to wear gloves

To be fair I have never owned a truckmount so cant say if the above would give better results or not. All I can go on is the fact that I have been paid for the previous work without any problems and I was pleased with the results.

sounds like a lot of work ,

1. pump spayer
1. towel
1. very hot truckmount

done

[Simon Gerrard]

We regularly clean either vast areas of carpet, or enormous numbers of chairs very quickly and to an exceptionally high standard. The secret is to have the correct system in place, that's the right men, chemicals, tools, machines and procedures to make them all work seamlessly together, which takes a great deal of organisation and forethought to make it work. We've cleaned 850 dirty restaurant chairs in an 8 hour shift, that's seat cushion, front and rear panel and had them dry in an hour. Attaining that level of efficiency (which by-the-way gives you a huge competitive edge) is the result of looking back at previous jobs to see how the overall system can be made more streamline, or the result even better, or both. It is also important to choose the cleaning system that fits the circumstances and not opt for a lesser system that compromises quality for the sake of speed.
The trouble with cinemas is jobs like that often go to the lowest bidder, but with a well thought out system, you needn't skimp on quality to make the cleaning and the time taken fit the price tag, which if corners are cut could cost you repeat business.

Simon

[Jamie Pearson]

White nylon pad
Enzyme Carpet Shampoo  - Energizer & Traffic Lane Cleaner Boosted
Loads of towels

GO

... remember to wear gloves

To be fair I have never owned a truckmount so cant say if the above would give better results or not. All I can go on is the fact that I have been paid for the previous work without any problems and I was pleased with the results.

sounds like a lot of work ,

1. pump spayer
1. towel
1. very hot truckmount

done

Remember the fuel

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

White nylon pad
Enzyme Carpet Shampoo  - Energizer & Traffic Lane Cleaner Boosted
Loads of towels

GO

... remember to wear gloves

To be fair I have never owned a truckmount so cant say if the above would give better results or not. All I can go on is the fact that I have been paid for the previous work without any problems and I was pleased with the results.

sounds like a lot of work ,

1. pump spayer
1. towel
1. very hot truckmount

done

Remember the fuel

at 60p a lt  my truck mount can rev its guts out allday for less then 20 pounds 

[Paul Moss]

White nylon pad
Enzyme Carpet Shampoo  - Energizer & Traffic Lane Cleaner Boosted
Loads of towels

GO

... remember to wear gloves

To be fair I have never owned a truckmount so cant say if the above would give better results or not. All I can go on is the fact that I have been paid for the previous work without any problems and I was pleased with the results.

sounds like a lot of work ,

1. pump spayer
1. towel
1. very hot truckmount

done

Remember the fuel

at 60p a lt  my truck mount can rev its guts out allday for less then 20 pounds 

[Jamie Pearson]

White nylon pad
Enzyme Carpet Shampoo  - Energizer & Traffic Lane Cleaner Boosted
Loads of towels

GO

... remember to wear gloves

To be fair I have never owned a truckmount so cant say if the above would give better results or not. All I can go on is the fact that I have been paid for the previous work without any problems and I was pleased with the results.

sounds like a lot of work ,

1. pump spayer
1. towel
1. very hot truckmount

done

Remember the fuel

at 60p a lt  my truck mount can rev its guts out allday for less then 20 pounds 

That's a lot better then the £60 mentioned earlier anyway

[peter maybury]

everyone harp on about the cost of running a truckmount but in 1 day with a good labourer I can achieve with a truckmount what it used to takes 4 or 5 portables and 6 people to do and to a much higher standard. I cannot afford not to run a portable.
I am always looking at doing things cheaper and more effectively but so far have not found such.

Peter

[Phild]

What a great thread; Simon definitely has it sorted!................now it would be great to chat to him at a Truckfest!

It amazes me so many mention the energy costs of running their truck-mounts. Personally I worry more about the whole vehicle running costs per mile i.e. the cost of getting to the job and back.

On the other hand if you think the running costs of your CC machine are a problem for energy / safety/ maintenance and that sort of stuff you should check out Bane Clene. It does what it says on the can. We run a couple and I did a blog about them yonks ago on our website. Good kit if you can get hold of a system.

It would be interesting to find out how much people are factoring into their quotes for transport for particular types of vans? I know ours range from 45p - £1.10 / mile, that includes everything from small Vauxhall vans to LWB Mercs.

Just to put mileage costs into perspective, petrol was 75p a gallon when I joined the industry. It's an important threat.

PhilD

[peter maybury]

I think that a lot of people are missing the point here a truckmount does noit make you uncompetitive it gives you the productivity to do far more than with other equipment. WE are doing areas at rates a lot less per sq mtr than others will charge but the volume of work makes it very viable. When we travel to a job we are travelling to do much lrger quantitiies so the actual running cost of the vehicle goe down in proportion to your turnover. My setup in nothing to Simon but I do have the ability to do 5oo cinema seats or 1500 sq mtrs of carpet a day in the right situation. Simons productivity is that in an hour. If you are going to quote ££s per sq mtr or £10 per seat you are not going to get any work in the contract sector. We do not add costs on to customer we need to be competitive and productive and clean to an extremely high standard.
We can offer customers a cheaper alternative with low moisture cleaning but that is not what most of our customers want.
I could not contemplate the majority of my work withoout the truckmount set up.

Peter

[Paul Moss]

What a great thread; Simon definitely has it sorted!................now it would be great to chat to him at a Truckfest!

It amazes me so many mention the energy costs of running their truck-mounts. Personally I worry more about the whole vehicle running costs per mile i.e. the cost of getting to the job and back.

On the other hand if you think the running costs of your CC machine are a problem for energy / safety/ maintenance and that sort of stuff you should check out Bane Clene. It does what it says on the can. We run a couple and I did a blog about them yonks ago on our website. Good kit if you can get hold of a system.

It would be interesting to find out how much people are factoring into their quotes for transport for particular types of vans? I know ours range from 45p - £1.10 / mile, that includes everything from small Vauxhall vans to LWB Mercs.

Just to put mileage costs into perspective, petrol was 75p a gallon when I joined the industry. It's an important threat.

PhilD

PhilD a very good point.  But you have to get to the job in a van whether you have a porty or a truck in it. At the end of the day the cost for doing the job with a truck is far out weighed by the price point. As long as your not charging a low rate per chair  to do it 

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

  to do these seat with a porty there would have to be two people one to do the work and one to emipty and refill the dam thing as there wont be a tap near buy , on big jobs like this you can lose hours with this filling up and emitying thing  so you may have two wages to pay